Mesa out of BK

[imisscorplife]

Damn, we (SKYW) cant buy enough 200's. Im doing paint shop flights left and right flying Mesa RJ's, old BR planes from Chitaquea?, even Mexican RJ's to get painted in DL and SKYW colors. SKYW mgmt is smart and they have this crap lined up well in advance. Its been years since people have been talkin about how the 200s are not going to be around anymore, but I dont see it. We are short on planes and pilots! Good luck to everyone and Im votin NO

 

[sniper]

Is Sniper really Johhny O?

Dont tell anyone please

 

[777forever]

Mesa's 900's have too many seats for Mesa to be merged with either ASA or Skyw. DALPA's contact restricts connection carriers to no more than 76 seats, so if acquired Mesa would have to remain a separate entity. No merger or integration.

The DAL scope covers all the aircraft operated by a connection carrier, regardless of who they are operated for. That is why when ACA ordered Airbuses Delta canceled their Dojet contract.

Correct. And that's why Mesa (which sucks by the way) needed the Freedom certificate to fly for Delta.

Holy crap! Very very good point fellas. I, and Im sure most people on here did not realize that an 86 seat jet is a contract violation regardless of who you fly for.

Mesa will indeed have to remain separate if its purchased by Inc. I wonder if they will keep the XJET certificate in the backburner...

 

[amcnd]

Holy crap! Very very good point fellas. I, and Im sure most people on here did not realize that an 86 seat jet is a contract violation regardless of who you fly for.

Mesa will indeed have to remain separate if its purchased by Inc. I wonder if they will keep the XJET certificate in the backburner...

Im sure USair would love to get some premium passangers and have the 76 seat config...

 

[10nCLR]

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/09/23/20100923biz-spiritairlines0923.html

4th or 5th paragraph I think, very interesting.

 

[Beantown]

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/09/23/20100923biz-spiritairlines0923.html

4th or 5th paragraph I think, very interesting.

I could be wrong but I think JO is (or at least was) on the board at Spriit.

 

[sniper]

I could be wrong but I think JO is (or at least was) on the board at Spriit.

Never was. It is illegal to be on 2 different airlines

 

[A-V-8]

I've been making payments on our scope with every paycheck since our '03 contract. We should be ready to fight tooth and nail to make it stick.

We don't have to fight for that. Suspending our scope clause is not part of the BK. It will be there.

 

[sniper]

We don't have to fight for that. Suspending our scope clause is not part of the BK. It will be there.

Correct

 

[Bako Cap]

We don't have to fight for that. Suspending our scope clause is not part of the BK. It will be there.

Kind of like XJT's scope clause. I heard a lot of chest thumping about that one. They are not exercising the merge of all three airlines XJT/ASA/SKW due to possibly losing in court and other threats by SKW. The XJT pilot group is much more organized and unified than Mesa's pilot group and they are folding on scope. Mesa pilots will fold on their scope clause for similar reasons. It's poor timing for you guys to finally try to lead the industry on anything, especially scope.

 

[sniper]

Kind of like XJT's scope clause. I heard a lot of chest thumping about that one. They are not exercising the merge of all three airlines XJT/ASA/SKW due to possibly losing in court and other threats by SKW. The XJT pilot group is much more organized and unified than Mesa's pilot group and they are folding on scope. Mesa pilots will fold on their scope clause for similar reasons. It's poor timing for you guys to finally try to lead the industry on anything, especially scope.

Wrong........Mesa does not need skw, express jet does and that is the reason their mec chose 2 way versus 3 way merger.

Btw I was told on a private email that mesa mec told skw take all pilots or none and skw went away. I guess their scope was honored by the judge.


I wish we had mesa's scope

 

[mesaserf]

We don't have to fight for that. Suspending our scope clause is not part of the BK. It will be there.

My intention was this.

Should we ever be purchased I would expect my MEC and ALPA contract administrators to fight to ensure that my rights under our scope agreement continue to be protected.

And yes.... We have some of the best scope protection out there.

Read it Mesa haters and see for yourself. That is what I have been paying for all of these years.

 

[Bako Cap]

Scope it all about if one is willing to force it. Sorry, I just don't see Mesa pilots forcing anything but the bar, lower of course. I have no faith in the Mesa pilot group to do anything but roll over. Good job on scaring Jerry away, congrats and enjoy JO.

 

[CaribPilot]

Sorry, I just don't see Mesa pilots forcing anything but their pants downwards. I have no faith in the Mesa pilot group to do anything but bend over. Good job on scaring Jerry away, congrats and enjoy JO.

Fixed it for ya man. ^^^^^^^ Thank me later.

 

[sniper]

Scope it all about if one is willing to force it. Sorry, I just don't see Mesa pilots forcing anything but the bar, lower of course. I have no faith in the Mesa pilot group to do anything but roll over. Good job on scaring Jerry away, congrats and enjoy JO.

Mesa MEC is not willing to bend over and Jerry knows that.
As far as JO, look who controls the new board of directors, he may be gone as well if he f---s up again which I think he will again.

so lets see

 

[homerjdispatch]

Ever think that maybe Jerry and the SKYW BOD is waiting for MESA to get cleaned up in bancrupcy? Maybe thats part of this deal... SkyWest is just waiting for Mesa to emerge as a leaner airline with all that debt shed. Maybe USAIR, SKYW, and MESA are all in this together....

Um just sayin...