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[Jar Jar]

What's it matter anyway. I doubt that j.o. Will go to Mesa pilots and ask for a pay cut. Everyone that got a downgrade took a 50% hit. Then to ask for more will require big balls.

You doubt it??? Do you even work at MAG? Thats nuts!

If one thing is true about JO's personality, its that he doesn't give two craps about anyone else.

JO will start looking for a new job once they exit Ch.11, he needs more money to support his lifestyle than the restructured mesa can provide.

The pilots will be asked for concessions, and based on the history of the remaining pilots employed at mesa I suspect they will agree.

Mesa will continue to fly "the 9" and Airways will eventually start to discuss buying Mesa and merging them with PSA.

Both sides will have to agree to fly at Mesa rates before Airways proceeds with the transaction.

PSA will vote yes.

If JO hasn't found a new job by this point he will be brought on at Airways because DP 'plays the game' and has a masochistic love-hate relationship with JO.

 

[Metro752]

They will buy out all of Mesa and rename them America West Airlines to preserve the America West name....

 

[mesaserf]

MAG ALPA MEC Chair is Greek, although he does look Mexican. He gave his two week notice to fly for an "Overseas Carrier" just last week.

Probably one that allows chain smoking on the flight deck....

 

[CX880]

MAG ALPA MEC Chair is Greek, although he does look Mexican. He gave his two week notice to fly for an "Overseas Carrier" just last week.

Probably one that allows chain smoking on the flight deck....

At least it wasn't Jetblue. That would have been ironic. Oh wait I'm sure the other place isn't union either. Go figure.

 

[sniper]

MAG ALPA MEC Chair is Greek, although he does look Mexican. He gave his two week notice to fly for an "Overseas Carrier" just last week.

Probably one that allows chain smoking on the flight deck....

Good for him, at least he did not allowed paycuts.....

where did he go?

 

[sniper]

At least it wasn't Jetblue. That would have been ironic. Oh wait I'm sure the other place isn't union either. Go figure.

I am sure he did not go to an alterego blowjet alike outfit, undercutting the Trans States pilots like you did after you left Mesa.

 

[sniper]

They will buy out all of Mesa and rename them America West Airlines to preserve the America West name....

I think Mesa will be buying PSA and PDT........

 

[CX880]

I am sure he did not go to an alterego blowjet alike outfit, undercutting the Trans States pilots like you did after you left Mesa.

You're a moron. I wasn't even flying when Gojet started or Mesa for that matter. Nice try and stay out of the regional section before we steal your flying too.

By the way... TSA, Jetblue, Gojet.. Dario is that you?

 

[Raoul Duke]

The Mesa MEC Chair went to GoJets? Are they hiring street captains?

 

[CX880]

The Mesa MEC Chair went to GoJets? Are they hiring street captains?

The story is that the TSA MEC, that allowed Gojets to happen in exchange of saving his ass from a company issue, went to non union Jetblue.

 

[sniper]

You're a moron. I wasn't even flying when Gojet started or Mesa for that matter. Nice try and stay out of the regional section before we steal your flying too.

By the way... TSA, Jetblue, Gojet.. Dario is that you?

Still a gojet yoyo, ethical bankrupt pilot and you cant change that.......

 

[sniper]

The Mesa MEC Chair went to GoJets? Are they hiring street captains?

He went overseas I was told. No union leader will ever join blowjets

 

[CX880]

Still a gojet yoyo, ethical bankrupt pilot and you cant change that.......

Yea OK. Hide your flying because gojets pilots will do it for free......

 

[sniper]

Yea OK. Hide your flying because gojets pilots will do it for free......

Ethical Bankrupt because, Trans States was on section 6, trans states pilots were getting laid off and ANY pilot with some decency should not even have applied at blowjets......

12,000 pilots on the street at 2005, have you wonder why you got that job and not some others with tons of experience? I guess they knew better

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Yea OK. Hide your flying because gojets pilots will do it for free......

Ahhh Ha!
Your true colors are finally flown, nice job POS.
PBR

 

[CX880]

Ahhh Ha!
Your true colors are finally flown, nice job POS.
PBR

Yes they are finally flying high! That's wright, fly for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CX880]

Ethical Bankrupt because, Trans States was on section 6, trans states pilots were getting laid off and ANY pilot with some decency should not even have applied at blowjets......

12,000 pilots on the street at 2005, have you wonder why you got that job and not some others with tons of experience? I guess they knew better

I don't even know what your talking about. I think TSA in 05/06 furloughed for like 3 months probably for the loss of the j41 flying and recalled everyone, not many even came back. The second wave of furloughs was for the loss of the 15 American Eagle ERJs they were flying for Eagle. I think it's kind of like saying anyone that goes to Compass today doesn't have a soul, since CPZ is also TSA sister company and there are many furloughed at TSA.

 

[sniper]

I don't even know what your talking about. I think TSA in 05/06 furloughed for like 3 months probably for the loss of the j41 flying and recalled everyone, not many even came back. The second wave of furloughs was for the loss of the 15 American Eagle ERJs they were flying for Eagle. I think it's kind of like saying anyone that goes to Compass today doesn't have a soul, since CPZ is also TSA sister company and there are many furloughed at TSA.[/QUOTE




Is not worth my time discussing something that you see only your way.

I never worked for trans states but I knew they were on section 6 when hulas start this alterego and proudly was at the picketing in st louis during the birth of blow jets.

before you join a company do your research if you dont want to be labeled.......I heard it from eastern pilot wannabes that they did not know what was happening when people were throwing eggs at them.......and now i heard from you that there is nothing wrong joining blow jets. I am sorry I disagree with you. Myself alomg with I would say 99 percent of pilots in this country.

so have a good day......

 

[CX880]

Is not worth my time discussing something that you see only your way.

I never worked for trans states but I knew they were on section 6 when hulas start this alterego and proudly was at the picketing in st louis during the birth of blow jets.

before you join a company do your research if you dont want to be labeled.......I heard it from eastern pilot wannabes that they did not know what was happening when people were throwing eggs at them.......and now i heard from you that there is nothing wrong joining blow jets. I am sorry I disagree with you. Myself alomg with I would say 99 percent of pilots in this country.

so have a good day......

Nobody is labeling anybody. It's just you. You are blinded by union BS. Not even ALPA cares anymore about gojets, they are even sending their furloughed ALPA pilots by the dozen.

A little history lesson, it was a local issue which was horribly managed even when they knew they had no contract to protect them from the owner starting another pilot certificate. A lot of pilots didn't think it would happen and followed the MEC over the cliff even though there was nothing prohibiting the creation of a separate holdings company. What hulas did was nothing new, a lot of companies try the tactic of having separate holding companies, it's a standard practice in the Business world. It comes in handy especially if you have a labor force, for obvious reasons. But for whatever reason, the MEC thought that the TSA pilots were owed a single list and pay raises when they weren't even up for contract negotiations. Instead of securing the separate certificates like Republic and Eagle pilots and others have done in the past, most of them with concessions.... they didn't, even though they really had no choice but to accept. Hulas then said Great! even better, I'll start a separate list, have a nice day. Now blaming gojets pilots for all of this?? But anyways hindsight is always 20/20, it's too late now.

 

[sniper]

Nobody is labeling anybody. It's just you. You are blinded by union BS. Not even ALPA cares anymore about gojets, they are even sending their furloughed ALPA pilots by the dozen.

A little history lesson, it was a local issue which was horribly managed even when they knew they had no contract to protect them from the owner starting another pilot certificate. A lot of pilots didn't think it would happen and followed the MEC over the cliff even though there was nothing prohibiting the creation of a separate holdings company. What hulas did was nothing new, a lot of companies try the tactic of having separate holding companies, it's a standard practice in the Business world. It comes in handy especially if you have a labor force, for obvious reasons. But for whatever reason, the MEC thought that the TSA pilots were owed a single list and pay raises when they weren't even up for contract negotiations. Instead of securing the separate certificates like Republic and Eagle pilots and others have done in the past, most of them with concessions.... they didn't, even though they really had no choice but to accept. Hulas then said Great! even better, I'll start a separate list, have a nice day. Now blaming gojets pilots for all of this?? But anyways hindsight is always 20/20, it's too late now.

Buying an airline versus starting a new certificate is a HUGE difference.
Only Mesa started an alterego besides Hulas for your info and yes see Mesa rates because of Freedom, they suck.....................

Republec and Eagle have a single seniority. WILL YOU ACCEPT A DATE OF HIRE WITH TRANS STATES?


good luck.

 

[CX880]

Buying an airline versus starting a new certificate is a HUGE difference.
Only Mesa started an alterego besides Hulas for your info and yes see Mesa rates because of Freedom, they suck.....................

Republec and Eagle have a single seniority. WILL YOU ACCEPT A DATE OF HIRE WITH TRANS STATES?


good luck.

It's too late for that. It's like saying if only my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle.

 

[ex j-41]

I love it when people try to justify working at gojerks.
They act so innocent but we all know they are cheating sob's.

 

[sniper]

I love it when people try to justify working at gojerks.
They act so innocent but we all know they are cheating sob's.

Thank you

 

[sniper]

It's too late for that. It's like saying if only my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle.

If Hulas get a contract with Trans States and transfer ALL Gojets 700's to Trans States certificate, with no scope you will be on the street, then HOW IS THAT FOR A PAYBACK?

I wish this happens and trans states start hiring from the street.

 

[CX880]

If Hulas get a contract with Trans States and transfer ALL Gojets 700's to Trans States certificate, with no scope you will be on the street, then HOW IS THAT FOR A PAYBACK?

I wish this happens and trans states start hiring from the street.

Why would you WISH something like that to happen to another pilot? That makes you no different than any other scum. Again, it was all up to TSA, not Gojet pilots. Gojets pilots didn't exist while TS was offered the contract. It's not as if the certificate was started overnight and TSA pilots had no say in it like Freedom and Mesa. Obviously to get support from the membership they spun it off as a Freedom/Mesa style op but it was so different that they even lost in court. I ask you why hasn't ALPA continued to pursue gautjets, instead of sending furloughed by the dozen???? Because behind closed doors even National understood what it was and what happened. What your alluding is that a pilot group couldn't get something, but you can't get it either because they couldn't and they don't want you to get it. Does that make much sense?

 

[CX880]

I love it when people try to justify working at gojerks.
They act so innocent but we all know they are cheating sob's.

It's just a job and LOL for many gojets is a very big step back, in qol and seniority. About the only guys that may have cheated were management guys.

 

[sniper]

Why would you WISH something like that to happen to another pilot? That makes you no different than any other scum. Again, it was all up to TSA, not Gojet pilots. Gojets pilots didn't exist while TS was offered the contract. It's not as if the certificate was started overnight and TSA pilots had no say in it like Freedom and Mesa. Obviously to get support from the membership they spun it off as a Freedom/Mesa style op but it was so different that they even lost in court. I ask you why hasn't ALPA continued to pursue gautjets, instead of sending furloughed by the dozen???? Because behind closed doors even National understood what it was and what happened. What your alluding is that a pilot group couldn't get something, but you can't get it either because they couldn't and they don't want you to get it. Does that make much sense?

Look at the mirror before you call me a scum........even 150 hr crj700 captain job will not make me apply at blowjets............here is another word for you: INTEGRITY look at the dictionary.

As far as ALPA....I was a member,rep, and more for 15 years
ALPA knows what gojets has.
UAL Furlough coordinator f--- up and got his a--- chewed.....

the flying you do was trans states, get that through your head........

adios

 

[CX880]

the flying you do was trans states, get that through your head........

adios

Yea just like skywest flying is Mesa flying, like Mesa flying was PSAs flying, like PSA flying was AWAC flying, like AWac flying was Skywest flying. It can't be someone elses flying when they never had it. Again gojets came after TSA's offer not during. And actually it's all UA flying.

 

[ex j-41]

It has nothing to do with who ownes the flying. It's all about TSA management starting an Alter Ego Airline and by doing so screwing TSA pilots. If noone went to Go Jerks then the company would have been forced to use the TSA pilots and pay them longevity and such.
The airplanes not flying belongs on TSA's fleet list. I agree you cannot be called a scab cause you didn't cross a picket line but that's OK cause we all know what a Go Jerks pilot is.

 

[CX880]

If noone went to Go Jerks then the company would have been forced to use the TSA pilots and pay them longevity and such.
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You're living in a dream world if you think that's reality. If only my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle............. think about it. Secure the flying and don't blame anyone else.