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[CX880]

Ahhh Ha!
Your true colors are finally flown, nice job POS.
PBR

Yes they are finally flying high! That's wright, fly for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CX880]

Ethical Bankrupt because, Trans States was on section 6, trans states pilots were getting laid off and ANY pilot with some decency should not even have applied at blowjets......

12,000 pilots on the street at 2005, have you wonder why you got that job and not some others with tons of experience? I guess they knew better

I don't even know what your talking about. I think TSA in 05/06 furloughed for like 3 months probably for the loss of the j41 flying and recalled everyone, not many even came back. The second wave of furloughs was for the loss of the 15 American Eagle ERJs they were flying for Eagle. I think it's kind of like saying anyone that goes to Compass today doesn't have a soul, since CPZ is also TSA sister company and there are many furloughed at TSA.

 

[sniper]

I don't even know what your talking about. I think TSA in 05/06 furloughed for like 3 months probably for the loss of the j41 flying and recalled everyone, not many even came back. The second wave of furloughs was for the loss of the 15 American Eagle ERJs they were flying for Eagle. I think it's kind of like saying anyone that goes to Compass today doesn't have a soul, since CPZ is also TSA sister company and there are many furloughed at TSA.[/QUOTE




Is not worth my time discussing something that you see only your way.

I never worked for trans states but I knew they were on section 6 when hulas start this alterego and proudly was at the picketing in st louis during the birth of blow jets.

before you join a company do your research if you dont want to be labeled.......I heard it from eastern pilot wannabes that they did not know what was happening when people were throwing eggs at them.......and now i heard from you that there is nothing wrong joining blow jets. I am sorry I disagree with you. Myself alomg with I would say 99 percent of pilots in this country.

so have a good day......

 

[CX880]

Is not worth my time discussing something that you see only your way.

I never worked for trans states but I knew they were on section 6 when hulas start this alterego and proudly was at the picketing in st louis during the birth of blow jets.

before you join a company do your research if you dont want to be labeled.......I heard it from eastern pilot wannabes that they did not know what was happening when people were throwing eggs at them.......and now i heard from you that there is nothing wrong joining blow jets. I am sorry I disagree with you. Myself alomg with I would say 99 percent of pilots in this country.

so have a good day......

Nobody is labeling anybody. It's just you. You are blinded by union BS. Not even ALPA cares anymore about gojets, they are even sending their furloughed ALPA pilots by the dozen.

A little history lesson, it was a local issue which was horribly managed even when they knew they had no contract to protect them from the owner starting another pilot certificate. A lot of pilots didn't think it would happen and followed the MEC over the cliff even though there was nothing prohibiting the creation of a separate holdings company. What hulas did was nothing new, a lot of companies try the tactic of having separate holding companies, it's a standard practice in the Business world. It comes in handy especially if you have a labor force, for obvious reasons. But for whatever reason, the MEC thought that the TSA pilots were owed a single list and pay raises when they weren't even up for contract negotiations. Instead of securing the separate certificates like Republic and Eagle pilots and others have done in the past, most of them with concessions.... they didn't, even though they really had no choice but to accept. Hulas then said Great! even better, I'll start a separate list, have a nice day. Now blaming gojets pilots for all of this?? But anyways hindsight is always 20/20, it's too late now.

 

[sniper]

Nobody is labeling anybody. It's just you. You are blinded by union BS. Not even ALPA cares anymore about gojets, they are even sending their furloughed ALPA pilots by the dozen.

A little history lesson, it was a local issue which was horribly managed even when they knew they had no contract to protect them from the owner starting another pilot certificate. A lot of pilots didn't think it would happen and followed the MEC over the cliff even though there was nothing prohibiting the creation of a separate holdings company. What hulas did was nothing new, a lot of companies try the tactic of having separate holding companies, it's a standard practice in the Business world. It comes in handy especially if you have a labor force, for obvious reasons. But for whatever reason, the MEC thought that the TSA pilots were owed a single list and pay raises when they weren't even up for contract negotiations. Instead of securing the separate certificates like Republic and Eagle pilots and others have done in the past, most of them with concessions.... they didn't, even though they really had no choice but to accept. Hulas then said Great! even better, I'll start a separate list, have a nice day. Now blaming gojets pilots for all of this?? But anyways hindsight is always 20/20, it's too late now.

Buying an airline versus starting a new certificate is a HUGE difference.
Only Mesa started an alterego besides Hulas for your info and yes see Mesa rates because of Freedom, they suck.....................

Republec and Eagle have a single seniority. WILL YOU ACCEPT A DATE OF HIRE WITH TRANS STATES?


good luck.

 

[CX880]

Buying an airline versus starting a new certificate is a HUGE difference.
Only Mesa started an alterego besides Hulas for your info and yes see Mesa rates because of Freedom, they suck.....................

Republec and Eagle have a single seniority. WILL YOU ACCEPT A DATE OF HIRE WITH TRANS STATES?


good luck.

It's too late for that. It's like saying if only my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle.

 

[ex j-41]

I love it when people try to justify working at gojerks.
They act so innocent but we all know they are cheating sob's.

 

[sniper]

I love it when people try to justify working at gojerks.
They act so innocent but we all know they are cheating sob's.

Thank you

 

[sniper]

It's too late for that. It's like saying if only my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle.

If Hulas get a contract with Trans States and transfer ALL Gojets 700's to Trans States certificate, with no scope you will be on the street, then HOW IS THAT FOR A PAYBACK?

I wish this happens and trans states start hiring from the street.

 

[CX880]

If Hulas get a contract with Trans States and transfer ALL Gojets 700's to Trans States certificate, with no scope you will be on the street, then HOW IS THAT FOR A PAYBACK?

I wish this happens and trans states start hiring from the street.

Why would you WISH something like that to happen to another pilot? That makes you no different than any other scum. Again, it was all up to TSA, not Gojet pilots. Gojets pilots didn't exist while TS was offered the contract. It's not as if the certificate was started overnight and TSA pilots had no say in it like Freedom and Mesa. Obviously to get support from the membership they spun it off as a Freedom/Mesa style op but it was so different that they even lost in court. I ask you why hasn't ALPA continued to pursue gautjets, instead of sending furloughed by the dozen???? Because behind closed doors even National understood what it was and what happened. What your alluding is that a pilot group couldn't get something, but you can't get it either because they couldn't and they don't want you to get it. Does that make much sense?

 

[CX880]

I love it when people try to justify working at gojerks.
They act so innocent but we all know they are cheating sob's.

It's just a job and LOL for many gojets is a very big step back, in qol and seniority. About the only guys that may have cheated were management guys.

 

[sniper]

Why would you WISH something like that to happen to another pilot? That makes you no different than any other scum. Again, it was all up to TSA, not Gojet pilots. Gojets pilots didn't exist while TS was offered the contract. It's not as if the certificate was started overnight and TSA pilots had no say in it like Freedom and Mesa. Obviously to get support from the membership they spun it off as a Freedom/Mesa style op but it was so different that they even lost in court. I ask you why hasn't ALPA continued to pursue gautjets, instead of sending furloughed by the dozen???? Because behind closed doors even National understood what it was and what happened. What your alluding is that a pilot group couldn't get something, but you can't get it either because they couldn't and they don't want you to get it. Does that make much sense?

Look at the mirror before you call me a scum........even 150 hr crj700 captain job will not make me apply at blowjets............here is another word for you: INTEGRITY look at the dictionary.

As far as ALPA....I was a member,rep, and more for 15 years
ALPA knows what gojets has.
UAL Furlough coordinator f--- up and got his a--- chewed.....

the flying you do was trans states, get that through your head........

adios

 

[CX880]

the flying you do was trans states, get that through your head........

adios

Yea just like skywest flying is Mesa flying, like Mesa flying was PSAs flying, like PSA flying was AWAC flying, like AWac flying was Skywest flying. It can't be someone elses flying when they never had it. Again gojets came after TSA's offer not during. And actually it's all UA flying.

 

[ex j-41]

It has nothing to do with who ownes the flying. It's all about TSA management starting an Alter Ego Airline and by doing so screwing TSA pilots. If noone went to Go Jerks then the company would have been forced to use the TSA pilots and pay them longevity and such.
The airplanes not flying belongs on TSA's fleet list. I agree you cannot be called a scab cause you didn't cross a picket line but that's OK cause we all know what a Go Jerks pilot is.

 

[CX880]

If noone went to Go Jerks then the company would have been forced to use the TSA pilots and pay them longevity and such.
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You're living in a dream world if you think that's reality. If only my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle............. think about it. Secure the flying and don't blame anyone else.