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NEW YORK, May 22 (Reuters) - Mesa Air Group Inc (MESA.O: Quote, Profile, Research), which provides regional flights for major airlines, said on Thursday it might be forced to file for bankruptcy protection if it loses a legal fight with Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N: Quote, Profile, Research).
If it files for bankruptcy, Mesa would be the eighth airline to seek Chapter 11 protection or close down operations in the past five months, following Frontier Airlines Holdings Inc FRNTQ.PK, Skybus Airlines Inc, ATA Airlines and others, as they grapple with record fuel prices.


Mesa, which operates regional flights for Delta, UAL Corp's (UAUA.O: Quote, Profile, Research) United Airlines and US Airways (LCC.N: Quote, Profile, Research), has been in dispute with Delta since March, when Delta told Mesa that it planned to terminate their partnership, accusing Mesa of failing to complete a specified number of flights.
Mesa denies that allegation, and in April it sued Delta, saying the airline had breached their agreement.


Earlier this month, Mesa filed a motion in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia to prevent Delta from terminating the agreement. A court hearing is set for May 27-29, and Mesa said it expects a ruling when that is completed.
In a regulatory filing early on Thursday, Mesa warned that if it loses the case, and Delta ends the agreement -- worth about $20 million a month to Mesa -- then it might file for bankruptcy.
That lost revenue, and about $250 million to $300 million in labor, leasing and other costs over the next four years, would cause Mesa to default on lease agreements, the company said, which would seriously affect its operations and finances.
"In such event, the company's financial condition would require that the company seek protection under applicable U.S. reorganization laws in order to avoid or delay actions by its lessors, creditors and code-share partners," Mesa said in its filing.

The airline, which is already struggling to shore up its finances by issuing shares to buy back debt, closed its Air Midwest unit earlier this month.
Other airlines that have filed for bankruptcy or shut down recently are Eos Airlines, Champion Air, Aloha Airlines and MAXjet Airways Inc. (Reporting by Bill Rigby; editing by John Wallace)
 
BEST NEWS EVER.....Oh, and MESA SUCKS!
 
It's time for anyone (not just the pilots) at Mesa to grab the handles and pull.... EJECT EJECT EJECT!
 
Not directed at MAG pilots, but J.O. and other ceo's and airlines that run this bad, pay this little, care this little for the front line workers, are this unethical and just generally this rotten (9E,pt and his cronies) just should not stay in buisiness.

Morrons running a ship in this way have to see that it just is not a long term, viable way to run a buisiness. There has to be mutual respect.

This would also help take some of the excess capacity out of the market. Kill two birds with one ceo. Good ridance J.O. Take P.T. with you. Scum bags both.
 
I really hope the Mesa guys are getting the hell outta there as quickly as they can find something. Run like hell!

MESA SUCKS!
 
My money is on Mesa leaving the industry by the end of the year.
 
Good news for the industry, but bad news for the pilots. Good luck to all MAG pilots.
 
He only gave the bottom 400 pilots WARN notices and not the whole company. We are still experiencing high attrition. 30 - 40 or so per month. Won’t take long and we will be right back to where we are now. Even with the fast upgrade at Mesa there are many airlines that are hiring large numbers of pilots that don’t meet the ATP minimums. They will have to be bypassed when their # comes up for upgrade and the low upgrade times at many regional’s will continue for a while in my opinion. I am concerned about my fellow pilots but for me at 300 Turbine PIC and 4 years on property I am certain that I can get back to a comparable position to where I am now if I make F.O. in this whole ordeal. I don’t think that I will though. Also this will accelerate attrition along with no vacations for CRJ pilots in nearly a year. We could use some extra pilots on the CRJ right now. On the ERJ rosters we only have 253 pilots. In Jan. – April we lost 122 pilots due to attrition. Considering that it takes about 3 months to train a pilot on a new certificate, new equipment, and IOE etc. It is hard for me to imagine furloghes. That being said I do have a copy of my ID and LES just incase I have to get home on the 30th. Resume is ready to go.
 
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This had nothing to do with Delta. It had all to do with that pissant operation that Mesa is running in Hawaii charging peanuts... all with the intent of driving another airline out of business because they told them they wanted nothing to do with Mesa.

All ego... ZERO business sense. Unfortunately, it is Joe Line Pilot that pays the price...
 
He only gave the bottom 400 pilots WARN notices and not the whole company.

In response to the argument that Mesa isn't going to close its doors because only junior pilots got WARN letters:

Won't bankruptcy protection take care of that, one way or another?

Either the WARN program goes out the window in bk, or MAG can empty its coffers to pay out required severence packages (it's not like they'll need the money anymore! All contracts will default).

But what do I know?
 
All Mesa Pilots Are Equal To Scabs In MY EYES

I hope every Mesa pilot ends up on the street. ****************************** bags!
 
I hope every Mesa pilot ends up on the street. ****************************** bags!
You lack professionalism. I hope you get every bit of what you deserve.
 
Hate to say it, but SKYW stock is semi-plummeting too. It's lost $4/share in the past 2 or 3 days.

Mesa filing BK does not mean they are going away. Like Delta, NW, USAirways, Frontier, etc they will reduce debt, lower costs, ditch leases and keep flying....probably undercutting even more since their costs are now lower. They can go to their partners and ask for more business by offering them a cheaper product.

Meas and JO are not going anywhere.....
 
I disagree. I think JO's dug himself and MAG into too big of a hole to dig himself back out of. He'll take his golden parachute and bail while the company comes crashing down. He won't be able to find the DIP financing to successfully restructure in Chapter 11 in this environment, especially with all carriers scaling back their RJ feed. I predict MAG will be done by the end of the year.
 
I hope every Mesa pilot ends up on the street. ****************************** bags!

Bit of advice.

I'd keep that sentiment to yourself if you get hired on to a major carrier or decent fractional.

Mesa has been the training ground for hundreds, if not thousands of pilots who are now working for real airlines.

Small world and all.
 
Hate to say it, but SKYW stock is semi-plummeting too. It's lost $4/share in the past 2 or 3 days.

Mesa filing BK does not mean they are going away. Like Delta, NW, USAirways, Frontier, etc they will reduce debt, lower costs, ditch leases and keep flying....probably undercutting even more since their costs are now lower. They can go to their partners and ask for more business by offering them a cheaper product.

Meas and JO are not going anywhere.....

Just like Aloha, Champion, Eos, and ATA too?

The bankruptcy laws have changed dramatically since all those declared (except Frontier, who will need a miracle to emerge)...
 
MESA SUCKS CANT WAIT TO SEE THE CRAPHOLE DISAPPEAR!!!!! THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO BE THERE STILL SO LEAVE BEFORE YOU END UP ON THE STREET WITH EVERYONE WHO STAYED!!!!! AND NEW GUYS DONT GO THERE YOULL ONLY BE ON THE STREET IN A FEW WEEKS AND SINCE YOU GAVE UP YOUR OTHER JOB YOU WILL PROBABLY LIVE IN A CARDBOARD BOX IN SOME ALLEY. (Which is more then mesa pilots can say since they cant afford said box, after all they only get payed wheels up to weight on wheels. Must feel good to sit for 2 hours in line for takeoff making nothing. Or when they dead you to Hawaii and only pay you 4 hours for a 9 hour flight. You have only yourselves to blame, leave the craphole and go somewhere else almost anywhere is better except GO you guys really suck hard at life, bunch of tool bags that couldnt get jobs elsewhere cause your too ugly for society. I saw one of your pilots looked like Sloth from the Goonies.)
 
....probably undercutting even more since their costs are now lower. They can go to their partners and ask for more business by offering them a cheaper product.

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The MEC wont let this happen. Trust me!
 
He only gave the bottom 400 pilots WARN notices and not the whole company. We are still experiencing high attrition. 30 - 40 or so per month. . It is hard for me to imagine furloghes. That being said I do have a copy of my ID and LES just incase I have to get home on the 30th. Resume is ready to go.

i hope your right. I was 395 of 400 when the letters came out. all i need is 6 more people senior to me to quit
 

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