Mesa ERJ CA Upgrade @ 1 year

[sennant]

Just a follow-up to what this original thread was. Our Standing Bid dept screwed up and issued a retraction. ERJ CA back-tracked to about a year and a half.

With that said though. It still skipped over 60+ FO's in the ERJ. You can see that no one wants to get stuck with the Freedom name.

 

[OPECJet]

E170 complicated?

I guess that means my Ford needs a type rating too.......

The beer's on me for the A-10 guy.

 

[bearcat]

E170 complicated?

I guess that means my Ford needs a type rating too.......

The beer's on me for the A-10 guy.

Couldn't resist. I would take you up on the beer but that would show my identity. It wont be in an E170 domicile!

 

[OPECJet]

No worries. I wouldn't be in an E170 domicile either. I don't drink KoolAid, or FlavorAid.

 

[Otto Coarsen]

Keep reapeating:

FREEDOM (shame)
(not)
SCUM. + a-listers yadda yadda . . .

Which words are gonna be remembered? You're pretty set about expressing your anger about Freedom yourself . . . the rage comes through not the "but".

IF You really care about the Freedom "C" guys, just drop the rage and congradulate em, not re-live ancient history. Or keep the Freedom mantra going . . .. bad,bad,bad,bad,bad . . . (but now good, ok, cuz it's receved the blessing of His Holiness DW and Arch Bishop/stool pegion AH)

Pretty funny that you guys keep this going, especially since none of the A-Listers are even there anymore, and won't suffer any desperately-hoped for "consequences"

I really don't think I was perpetuating any "cliches", but the sad fact is: these "c" guys will suffer because of the actions of the A-listers such as yourself (apparently, self proclaimed). I know your bad decision must still haunt you. Good... I know you want it to all just go away... It won't... It's just sad that our (poor excuse for a) company revived the freedom name. I feel for those who have been forced into wearing the badge that carries such stigma.

As a compliment to them, I was passing the word that these guys aren't what some uninformed may think. They do not deserve to be pissed on.

Whatever, anyway A-lister. According to your post, you have moved on to greener pastures with the rest of the douchebags. You say you want to let the stigma of the A-lister Die, yet you still retain that screenname...

 

[FN FAL]

Are they hiring?

Who is that chick in your avatar and why is her hair so short?

 

[spitfire1500]

Just a follow-up to what this original thread was. Our Standing Bid dept screwed up and issued a retraction. ERJ CA back-tracked to about a year and a half.

With that said though. It still skipped over 60+ FO's in the ERJ. You can see that no one wants to get stuck with the Freedom name.

Its not the Freedom name anymore....its the fact that Delta has only named MCO for 17 airplanes the destination of the other 19 is To Be announced and who wants to bid CA with a three year seat lock and have no idea where you are going. These junior guys that think they are going to Florida may not be if Boston or Salt Lake are the other places named for the placement of the leftover ERJ's.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Whats the deal with this E170 guppykiller. Why does everyone hate him. Is there something I am missing. And why did he put pilots on the street. Someoe care to elaborate. Thank you

Guppy is the nickname given to the B737. Mainline B737's are being replaced by regional jets, small jets...whatever you want to call them being flown by regional airline affiliates (like Chautauqua, Mid-Atlantic, Shuttle America, etc...) at substantially reduced pay rates for the pilots.

I believe that people are upset with this guy/girl because of his screen name. Because he uses this screen name he seems to be happy about the fact that he is flying a jet for a regional which has replaced (or displaced) thousands of mainline B737 drivers, myself included. I'm furloughed from United and actually went back to work for one of its regional affiliates flying the exact same routes and passengers I did while at mainline on the B737. I was happy to have a job, but not happy at all about the circumstances. Oh yeah, I took an 86% paycut too.

The unfortunate outcome of this shift in flying is that there are now a reduced number of jobs at the major airlines. This means that pilots will now be flying for longer periods of time at a regional airline making crappy wages. The industry has changed for the worse in just five short years and "GuppyKiller" seems to be enjoying watching other pilots misfortunes. I've been in the airline industry now for 16 years and flying jets for 9 years. When you get right down to it, a plane is just a plane. They are mostly the same (at least airliners). Heck, I'd rather fly something smaller if I could still get the same pay and benefits. If "GuppyKiller" really is an airline pilot, he's an idiot. Probably has "Shiny Jet Syndrome".

If this person truly is a pilot and I ever found out he/she was interviewing at my airline he would not be hired.

GP

 

[labbats]

I have never seen so many people fall for so many flamebait posts. I can count at least 3 posters in this thread who are only existing to flamebait people and you idiots fall for it every time. Classic.

 

[RP170]

Guppy is the nickname given to the B737. Mainline B737's are being replaced by regional jets, small jets...whatever you want to call them being flown by regional airline affiliates (like Chautauqua, Mid-Atlantic, Shuttle America, etc...) at substantially reduced pay rates for the pilots.

I believe that people are upset with this guy/girl because of his screen name. Because he uses this screen name he seems to be happy about the fact that he is flying a jet for a regional which has replaced (or displaced) thousands of mainline B737 drivers, myself included. I'm furloughed from United and actually went back to work for one of its regional affiliates flying the exact same routes and passengers I did while at mainline on the B737. I was happy to have a job, but not happy at all about the circumstances. Oh yeah, I took an 86% paycut too.

The unfortunate outcome of this shift in flying is that there are now a reduced number of jobs at the major airlines. This means that pilots will now be flying for longer periods of time at a regional airline making crappy wages. The industry has changed for the worse in just five short years and "GuppyKiller" seems to be enjoying watching other pilots misfortunes. I've been in the airline industry now for 16 years and flying jets for 9 years. When you get right down to it, a plane is just a plane. They are mostly the same (at least airliners). Heck, I'd rather fly something smaller if I could still get the same pay and benefits. If "GuppyKiller" really is an airline pilot, he's an idiot. Probably has "Shiny Jet Syndrome".

If this person truly is a pilot and I ever found out he/she was interviewing at my airline he would not be hired.

GP

Why single out Shuttle America, MDA, and Chautauqua? Almost every regional is flying 70 seat aircraft. So why is Republic Holdings (CHQ) always singled out as being the "bad guys"? 70 seats is 70 seats regardless of the aircraft. Look at Mesa. If you want to complain, complain about them. They fly 90 seat CRJ's.

 

[Cows Go Moo]

Its not the Freedom name anymore....its the fact that Delta has only named MCO for 17 airplanes the destination of the other 19 is To Be announced and who wants to bid CA with a three year seat lock and have no idea where you are going. These junior guys that think they are going to Florida may not be if Boston or Salt Lake are the other places named for the placement of the leftover ERJ's.

Exactly right.

The Freedom stigma isn't what it was. Even non-Mesa folks who don't generally keep up on regional news or care are hearing that Freedom is now (and has been for 2.5 years) entirely integrated with the ALPA-represented Mesa pilot group.

No one wants the upgrade because a substantial number of the ERJ peeps live in CLT and dread the MCO commute/relocation. That and MCO is not going to be the mega-domicile that CLT was. There will be more than one Delta base, and we don't know where it or they will be.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Why single out Shuttle America, MDA, and Chautauqua? Almost every regional is flying 70 seat aircraft. So why is Republic Holdings (CHQ) always singled out as being the "bad guys"? 70 seats is 70 seats regardless of the aircraft. Look at Mesa. If you want to complain, complain about them. They fly 90 seat CRJ's.

OK Dingus.

I made a statement about B737 flying being shifted to those three companies. I did not complain about these companies specifically. Notice that I did write "etc..." after listing those three companies. Should I have listed ALL of the regional airlines that fly jets for a mainline partner?

If you actually read my post you would understand that I was complaining about the use of a screen name and the arrogance and ignorance it portrays.

For the sake of RP170:

Shuttle America
Chautauqua
Mid Atlantic
PSA
Horizon
SkyWest
American Eagle
Air Wisconsin
Pinnacle
Mesaba
ASA
Comair
Continental Express
Trans States
Mesa

Did I miss any?

Enjoy the trailer park.

GP

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Bump.


RP170?

GP

 

[RP170]

OK Dingus.

I made a statement about B737 flying being shifted to those three companies. I did not complain about these companies specifically. Notice that I did write "etc..." after listing those three companies. Should I have listed ALL of the regional airlines that fly jets for a mainline partner?

If you actually read my post you would understand that I was complaining about the use of a screen name and the arrogance and ignorance it portrays.

For the sake of RP170:

Shuttle America
Chautauqua
Mid Atlantic
PSA
Horizon
SkyWest
American Eagle
Air Wisconsin
Pinnacle
Mesaba
ASA
Comair
Continental Express
Trans States
Mesa

Did I miss any?

Enjoy the trailer park.

GP

Thanks for taking the time to post those for all of us to see.

 

[Cadillac]

Now hold on, Continental Express doesn't fly 70 seaters, although they have ruined many of Continental's 737 routes and are arguably doing almost as much damage with extended-range erj's.


Continental is waiting to give that 70 seater flying to chitaco or mesa.

 

[MACH-TUCK]

Pinnacle only dreams of flying 70 seaters.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Now hold on, Continental Express doesn't fly 70 seaters, although they have ruined many of Continental's 737 routes and are arguably doing almost as much damage with extended-range erj's.


Continental is waiting to give that 70 seater flying to chitaco or mesa.

I never said that COEx or any of those airlines listed flew 70 seaters. Some do, some don't. Regardless, 50 seaters as well as 70 and 90 seaters are replacing B737's and MD80's/DC-9's. I know this first hand all too well and it sounds like you do too.

Cadillac - do you know if you buy a ticket on CO from, say PIT-PSP that you could possibly get routed the entire trip on an RJ? I know that COEx operates both cities from IAH. Or, does a portion of the trip need to be on CO mainline due to a scope?

Cheers!

GP

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Cadillac - do you know if you buy a ticket on CO from, say PIT-PSP that you could possibly get routed the entire trip on an RJ? I know that COEx operates both cities from IAH. Or, does a portion of the trip need to be on CO mainline due to a scope?

There is no requirement for a passenger to be on a mainline airplane for any portion of their trip, so yes, they could fly on an RJ from PIT to PSP or from IAD to BOI, or even from LCH to LIT. That said, if anyone want to throw blame somewhere for the fact we do a lot of long haul flying, etc, they should be pointing it at the former IACP (not CAL ALPA MEC) since they allowed XJT to have as many 50 seat jets as management wanted.

-Neal

 

[Rook]

Good post Neal.

 

[suupah]

E170GUPPYKILLER????
TAKE YOUR E180 TO THE HANGER AND STFU
Low life walmart FAg

more like E170GUPPYKUNT!!!!!!

diggin the hate. i shouldn't but i do.