Mesa and Skywest considered MAJORS!!

[grog_sit_reserv]

How can anyone consider themselves a major when their revenue is all from contracted flying?

And, your companies' make lots of dough, but YOU don't, better not be too excited about being at the regionals.

I never was...

 

[Pee_nuss]

I can almost hold MD88 Captain right now, thanks. And, I am 40, with a chance for a raise in 5 or 6 years. You will never get more than a 1.2% raise, and fly your next new airplane at Brasilia wages. Have fun PEE NUSS.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I know your almost a captain, its seems to be all you have talked about in your posts lately. Im not saying good or bad my friend, its just funny how you are in our business about 1.2% when whats on the table for delta pilots is a wage for a 12 year captain at 85 bucks an hour? Maybe I should come fly one of those at delta, you could be my captain, and we could talk down on all the scum southwest guys who ruined the profession. I mean, they are so underpaid on that 37 right??

 

[General Lee]

So...ya'll have major cuts, pilots furloughed, pensions dumped, and Gnral Fool is bragging that he can "almost hold Md-88 captain." I'm sure your comrades are proud that you represent them on the Regional Board.

How was your date with LaFawnduh??


Mookie

Well, since I decided not to bid the ATL 765 FO that flies to HNL from ATL, I would say she is all yours. I am waiting to bid MD88 Captain on the DEC bid. As far as other pilots furloughed, I have always fought for them, but when you lose 2500 Captains, you tend to move up quickly. Do you suggest I don't upgrade because we have problems? If you can hold it, then bid it. The pension problems are huge, and they will be dumped. Look at the 2500 Captains that left----they took half and ran. Would you not have if you could have lost $1 million that you worked for over 25 years? They took their money and left, adios.

I hope you guys get that 1.2% pay raise. You deserve every bit of it.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I know your almost a captain, its seems to be all you have talked about in your posts lately. Im not saying good or bad my friend, its just funny how you are in our business about 1.2% when whats on the table for delta pilots is a wage for a 12 year captain at 85 bucks an hour? Maybe I should come fly one of those at delta, you could be my captain, and we could talk down on all the scum southwest guys who ruined the profession. I mean, they are so underpaid on that 37 right??

Pee,

We never set that wage. Another blue airline (not their pilots apparently) set those wages, and now they are the norm for 100 seaters like the E190. That should make you nervous. We didn't start it, and in the end may have to take it thanks to a judge. Regional rates will be coming down too. At a management roadshow in ATL today our pilots pointed out that the low rates suggested for the 100 seater were less than current Comair 70 seat rates. Management's answer? "Not for long." That will roll your way too, and I am not happy about that, but that is the way it will be.

Also, I think Southwest's pay rates are great. That airline is profitable, and they should make the most for the 737. If their company was doing poorly, then maybe not. I hope they continue to make that much when we eventually renegotiate our rates in 5-6 years.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Mookie]

ummmm Gnral...we turned it down....

good luck with the upgrade...

I'll pass on LaFawnduh...Deb's lookin' smokin.
-mookie

 

[General Lee]

ummmm Gnral...we turned it down....

good luck with the upgrade...

I'll pass on LaFawnduh...Deb's lookin' smokin.
-mookie

So, the question is Mookie, does the company plan on giving you any other raise, or do they have to? They can still use your last agreement, the one with the 50 seat wages for up to 99 seats, right? Bummer.

And, I hope to get that upgrade bid on the next bid in DEC. The one out today had a lot of displacements from captains on 737-200s etc, which are going away. I should be able to get it on the next hopefully.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Mookie]

We said no...now negotiations start, probably with 3rd party representation of some sort. Guess we'll be "brothers" agin, huh?? You would have gone off on us if we had taken it, so which do you want, looks like you guys underbid even Mesa on those 100 seaters, so how does it feel to the be the low end of the bar now? If you just really don't like SkyWest, just say so...I'm guessing the feeling is mutual. Let's move on and, please, leave our chief pilots out of your venom.

JUst as an FYI...I would start bragging about a future upgrade until you are about 2 weeks into class especially considering a. the state of the industry and b. the state of Delta. Trust me, I know about these things

Good luck, brotha
Mookie

 

[theskyking]

Mookie

How's it swingin'? I hope you're getting it somewhere near the hole. Probably not, with all that baby sitting going on.

Sam

 

[TCBKING]

Worked at my last cocktail party!

Is it supposed to burn when I pee?

More Cock than Tail Im sure...

 

[WhiteCloud]

Raise that bar General!

Thanks to 2500 Captains leaving in a little more than a year, I am now a few numbers from MD88 Captain, which will keep my pay at a respectable rate. Before they all retired, I didn't think I would move to the left seat for YEARS. But, things change, and Delta is doing what it needs to survive. My pay, thanks to the upgrade coming up here, will be about the same. Not bad for a carrier in bankruptcy. And, being 40, I have a chance at a pay raise in 5-6 years when we negotiate again.
Bye Bye--General Lee

I hope you're not bragging about getting the opportunity to do the Captain's job for what used to be FO pay. Good luck with the negotiations in 5-6 years. At least they won't be able to take your pension then.

 

[merlindrvr88]

Wake U p

You guys have to understand that the regionals are taking over. Andy Hughes has not flown the line in over 10 years and he would sell his own father to JO. JO is a convicted felon and has the record to prove it, and he is in charge. I remember when my father was a pilot and had the respect of everybody on the block. When a doctor is in surgery, he has 1 life in his hands. You guys have almost 100 hundred lives in your hands each flight and say "well I just love to fly". Stop with the substandard pay and stand up for yourselves. Andy Hughes and the MEC suck, get rid of them. Good luck.

 

[merlindrvr88]

Are you guys going to actually take this? What is wrong?

 

[Taco Rocket]

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The majors section should have a separate little area for the "Always a Bridesmaid, Never a Bride" commuters................




.

I believe they will rearrange it to have "Mesa" and "Big Mesa" columns next

 

[Taco Rocket]

You guys have to understand that the regionals are taking over. Andy Hughes has not flown the line in over 10 years and he would sell his own father to JO. JO is a convicted felon and has the record to prove it, and he is in charge. I remember when my father was a pilot and had the respect of everybody on the block. When a doctor is in surgery, he has 1 life in his hands. You guys have almost 100 hundred lives in your hands each flight and say "well I just love to fly". Stop with the substandard pay and stand up for yourselves. Andy Hughes and the MEC suck, get rid of them. Good luck.

Say it my brother SAY IT!

 

[DX Rick]

Any Skywest or Mesa guys in here willing to walk my resume in? I have always wanted to skip the regionals and go right to the majors.

 

[RP170]

I can almost hold MD88 Captain right now, thanks. And, I am 40, with a chance for a raise in 5 or 6 years. You will never get more than a 1.2% raise, and fly your next new airplane at Brasilia wages. Have fun PEE NUSS.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Congrats General. You are my hero. I hope I am almost an MD-88 captain when I'm 40. Actually, I take that back. I hope I am a 12 yr Delta captain flying the E-190 for $85/hr.

 

[Regul8r]

Be careful what you wish for.
It is MAJORS payscale, the rest of the MAJORS have not gotten down there yet! Been sayin' this for years, legacy and mainline pilots could support "regional" pilots and bring their pay up or do nothing and watch their pay move down to the regional scale. Compare the new DAL and JB pay for their smallest jets!
Basic Econ 101, I guess most Mainline guys slept during that class.
PBR

OK, why let it get to that point? A company can't operate without employees, BUT as long as the employees keep bending over, the company will keep taking advantage of it. You along might have a tough time doing it, but I bet the company would listen to the employee group as a whole. Dump the unions, their time is over with. Unions make it easier for Management to divide and conquer. It is apparent that the management teams have tunnel vision and are locked on slashing costs (at employee expense) while using the "Shared Sacrifice" BS to bait the employees in with. Are 121 pilots just sitting around and hoping that management will throw you a few pieces of the pie out of the kindness of their hearts??? I agree with Merlindrvr88 that pilots need to wakeup. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed to anyone, NOW is the time for action!