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Mesa #1 Airline for Third Consecutive Year

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Mesa Pay

Just curious.....How much do you get paid again????

Thought so.

Just for the record, we (Mesa pilots) are among the highest paid pilots in the regional industry. Average Captain seniority is over 15 years and almost all Captains exceeded $100,000 last year. First Officers are at 7.5 years. We have had a line guarantee and actual or plan pay for several years.

Oh, and I almost forgot, Mesa is the ONLY airline that I know of to go through bankruptcy and NOT reject pilot contracts. Maybe this has something to do with the "best performance"

Just saying
 
No... NO.. NOOO.. How did Mesa do when they where in JFK????? How did they do when they had more airframes? Delta and anyone smart was getting rid of them.
 
No... NO.. NOOO.. How did Mesa do when they where in JFK????? How did they do when they had more airframes? Delta and anyone smart was getting rid of them.

JFK ? That place is a joke. Delta is "strong arming" all
The regionals to arrive at the lowest bidder re: go jets.
 
Just for the record, we (Mesa pilots) are among the highest paid pilots in the regional industry. Average Captain seniority is over 15 years and almost all Captains exceeded $100,000 last year. First Officers are at 7.5 years. We have had a line guarantee and actual or plan pay for several years.

Oh, and I almost forgot, Mesa is the ONLY airline that I know of to go through bankruptcy and NOT reject pilot contracts. Maybe this has something to do with the "best performance"

Just saying

If it takes an average of 15 years to upgrade that's not a place I would want to be. I was surprised when I looked at your payrates. Couldn't believe how bad they are. I make $10 more an hour than I would at Mesa and your 7 year fo's top out $10 an hour under our underpaid fo's. I never realized that cancelation pay was something to brag about. We have had it my entire time here.
 
If it takes an average of 15 years to upgrade that's not a place I would want to be. I was surprised when I looked at your payrates. Couldn't believe how bad they are. I make $10 more an hour than I would at Mesa and your 7 year fo's top out $10 an hour under our underpaid fo's. I never realized that cancelation pay was something to brag about. We have had it my entire time here.



SWA is a 20 year upgrade, your saying you wouldn't want to be there ? Full xcld pay, line guranatee, block or better leg by leg basis, RAH does not even have that. Our 12 year CA easily make 90-100k.
 
If it takes an average of 15 years to upgrade that's not a place I would want to be. I was surprised when I looked at your payrates. Couldn't believe how bad they are. I make $10 more an hour than I would at Mesa and your 7 year fo's top out $10 an hour under our underpaid fo's. I never realized that cancelation pay was something to brag about. We have had it my entire time here.



10 year upgrades are pretty standard at the airlines. You must be one of those " "I should be a captain during new hire training" or get "my 1000 pic and go to the majors "

Our upgrade is about 7 years for a Hawaii CA FYI
 
Oh, and I almost forgot, Mesa is the ONLY airline that I know of to go through bankruptcy and NOT reject pilot contracts. Maybe this has something to do with the "best performance"

Just saying

That might be because the Mesa contract was already one of the absolute worst pilot contracts out there. It's kind of hard to convince a bankruptcy judge that you need to reject a labor contract that is cheaper than nearly every competitor's.

Oh, but you've had block or better for a "few" years. Isn't that special.
 
The following number are all May 2012 month-to-date (05/18/12):

UA - D:O 67.90%, A:14 80.30%, ACF 99.20%
OO - D:O 68.80%, A:14 82.10%, ACF 99.50%

DL - D:O 73.80%, A:14 87.60%, ACF Unreported
OO - D:O 84.00%, A:14 92.40%, ACF 99.40%

AS - D:O 81.50%, A:14 91.50%, ACF 99.70%
OO - D:O 91.90%, A:14 96.10%, ACF 99.50%

US - No metrics are reported for US Airways or Express

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I don't believe any of these mainline carriers are disappointed in OO's metrics. In fact, word is both AS and US are looking to give OO even more flying.

Besides, what is YV going to do once all those airframe's engine overhauls come due? Do they have the cash on-hand to weather that storm like OO did the past three years? Very, very unlikely. Good luck, though!
 
We have had a line guarantee and actual or plan pay for several years.

Line guarantee, while it sounds sexy, is the absolute worst form of cancelation pay out there. Only those who don't get ANY cancelation pay are worse off. In order of most lucrative to least lucrative, here are the common forms of cancelation pay:

- Leg guarantee <===PCL and many others
- Day/duty period guarantee
- Trip guarantee
- Line guarantee <===MESA

As usual, Mesa brings up the rear of the industry.
 
The following number are all May 2012 month-to-date (05/18/12):

UA - D:O 67.90%, A:14 80.30%, ACF 99.20%
OO - D:O 68.80%, A:14 82.10%, ACF 99.50%

DL - D:O 73.80%, A:14 87.60%, ACF Unreported
OO - D:O 84.00%, A:14 92.40%, ACF 99.40%

AS - D:O 81.50%, A:14 91.50%, ACF 99.70%
OO - D:O 91.90%, A:14 96.10%, ACF 99.50%

US - No metrics are reported for US Airways or Express

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I don't believe any of these mainline carriers are disappointed in OO's metrics. In fact, word is both AS and US are looking to give OO even more flying.

Besides, what is YV going to do once all those airframe's engine overhauls come due? Do they have the cash on-hand to weather that storm like OO did the past three years? Very, very unlikely. Good luck, though!

Mesa has already been absorbing the cost of 200 engine overhauls. Are the 700/900 right around the corner?
 
Line guarantee, while it sounds sexy, is the absolute worst form of cancelation pay out there. Only those who don't get ANY cancelation pay are worse off. In order of most lucrative to least lucrative, here are the common forms of cancelation pay:

- Leg guarantee <===PCL and many others
- Day/duty period guarantee
- Trip guarantee
- Line guarantee <===MESA

As usual, Mesa brings up the rear of the industry.

Pay protection is pay protection. Awarded a 90 hour line, that's your new min guarantee. Now add in any block or better. It's all the same. Keep spinning though, your doing a great job sounding like a typical RJ FO
 
My favorite quote from Rene. "Freedom had the best ontime record right up to them being shut down" Doesn't that sort of indicate that performance isn't the problem with Mesa? Keep you head down, shut-up and do you friggin job.
 
My favorite quote from Rene. "Freedom had the best ontime record right up to them being shut down" Doesn't that sort of indicate that performance isn't the problem with Mesa? Keep you head down, shut-up and do you friggin job.


If you knew anything about how Delta operates its express flights , you wouldn't
say this. You don't so we can now ignore you.
 

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