MEI Questions

[ALIMBO]

Avbug I don't know what 1940's PTS version your using, but if you look in the Commercial PTS and you are a Commercial Pilot holding an Instrument Rating and go to add on a Commercial Multi you do not I repeat do not need to demonstrate Unusual Attitudes if you get asked to do it by the DE then do it. But, it is not in the PTS. Avbug before trying to use your years of flying to try and spread your knowledge pick up a book an look at the regs. Furthermore you do not even have to demonstrate them for even a commercial asel rating.

 

[ALIMBO]

No...you look in the practical test standards.
If you want to upgrade a private certificate with airplane, single engine privileges and an instrument rating, you need to be able to demonstrate basic instrument skills in the multi engine airplane. Further, if you're only trying to upgrade to the commercial and are doing it in a single engine airplane, you should expect to be asked to be able to demonstrate recoveries from unusual attitudes in the single engine airplane, too. You hold, after all, an instrument rating, do you not?

Nobody said anything about what you may be asked to do. Hell you maybe asked to do the approach single engine and go and do the hold under a simulated failed engine too. Does it happen maybe all the time of course not. Avbug you know I don't know what your deal is but something is not right about you. I've recieved a few messages about you from people that apparantly know you well. You don't even want to know what they say. Maybe you should realize your place on this website as just another person that posts on here thats it. You hold no status your no mod your nothing. Don't try an act like your king sh!t around here. Especially when you just got proved wrong by "14 yr old with nothing between his ears."

 

[ALIMBO]

Why worry about it if it's such as "easy ride?"

If you're going somewhere else...well...you'd do well not to approach any of your flight training as though it's an "easy ride." Take it seriously. Study.



This from an individual who doesn't have a multi engine instructor rating, and who isn't a flight instructor? Really? Just "trim it out" when training a student to fly a multi engine airplane? That's your advice and counsel for giving multi-engine flight instruction?? This, after you just said...



Upgrading to a commercial from a private pilot certificate with instrument privileges, and you wonder why you might have to demonstrate instrument proficiency at the commercial level, genius? And you're in the process of obtaining your CFII, are you? What a prize a potential student has in you.

It's okay...just make it wasy on yourself, trim it out, right?

What would you say if you actually had multi engine instructor privileges? Or any instructor privileges for that matter?

To the OP this guy is a tool and thinks he knows everything but he doesn't. The Comm Multi add on is in fact easy that is if your not a complete retard. I mean come on if Avbug can do it you can. Just study up and you will be fine. I apologize if this is a sh!t fest because of him and me. See he assumed I was upgrading from private to comm multi. Which wasn't true but he assumes. If I had my MEI and was training a Multi student I would teach them how to fly it without trim and then go ahead and just teach them with the rudder trim. There is enough going on in the plane so make it easy for yourself use the trim. But realize you may not always have rudder trim.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Lemme go get another bowl of popcorn. :smash:

 

[sqwkvfr]

Geeze, I'm glad I put that beer in the 'fridge...now I've got something to do with the rest of my vacation.

 

[ALIMBO]

LOL but at least realize I'm right. Right guys unless I'm missing something.

 

[AC560]

LOL but at least realize I'm right. Right guys unless I'm missing something.

Just the fact that the OP is trying to get his MEI not a Multi Commercial Add On along with several other things.

 

[JAFI]

LOL but at least realize I'm right. Right guys unless I'm missing something.

Where to begin?

1. You want to write lesson plans but demonstrate little grasp of English or grammar.

2. You toss the PTS into a discussion with out reference. I wonder if you have really ever read just one complete PTS.

3. You have just begun Instructor training yet discount people who have taught for decades.

4. You state that because you never heard of a specific certification requirement, that it must not be important. As an Instructor, all requirements are important.

Aviation will kill you if you do not take it serious. If you want to just play around, take up dodge ball.

Folks, Alimbo is just playing around at your expense and is enjoying yanking your chain. He may learn enough to become an Instructor, but IMHO not anytime soon. It is your time to use, but I think you could spend it better elsewhere.

Never argue with a fool - people might not know the difference.
- anonymous

 

[JAFI]

I'm getting my MEI soon, should be an easy ride BUT...

1. Any advice you wish you would have known before hand?
2. How was your check ride, what maneuvers did you have to do?
3. What questions were you asked in the oral?
4. Was everything as expected or were you thrown a curve ball?

Thanks

If you go back over this site you may see that every 6 months or so a new group of pilots begins a new rating and asks the same questions. The fact that they ask questions is IMHO a good sign. If a student is defined as someone who seeks knowledge, then they are students. I keep getting the feeling that many are just looking for the easy way out. I had a student who asked me "what is the least amount of work I need to do to pass?" I told him I was impressed that he had a goal but wondered if to just pass in a subject that lack of knowledge or skill could kill you was a good idea. He thought about it for a second and sad "no I just wanna pass". I told him I would warn my friends to not go flying with him.

The short answer is that every exam should be easy if you are prepared for it. If you know the material and practiced the maneuvers the exam should be quick and a demonstration that you should hold the rating.

 

[Immune83]

Sa-weeet! I leave for a day to fly to families for Christmas and bashing starts in the forums. C'mon people we are all at different levels, and all learning, and no one will ever "arrive."

Thank you to everyone's responses, keep them coming.

As stated in my first post, Im just looking for advice from other pilots from all backgrounds and experience levels. I do and will continue to study, Im not looking for a rote memorization gouge to BS a DE w/canned answers.

We all joined this site for what...... to communicate and learn from/with other people in the same profession, so stop bashing each other and just respond with something constructive that others can learn from.

So, how else has some MEI info to share, lets hear it....

 

[J.Otto]

i think the signatures are funny between alimbo and avbug. i doubt this would happen in face to face communications.

the mei is a serious rating. not to be taken lightly, especially if you havent a lot of multi hours to begin with.

for those pursing it, make sure you know me procedures and aerodynmics, inside and out. like the old saying goes... "the turning engine will take you to the accident quicker. " students can do some very unpredictable things. even the good ones. never left your guard down. know the proceedureas cold. ive heard some scary stories here and there.

alimbo seems to be a very angry guy who wants to prove how great a pilot he is. alimbo, this will come in time. you should be a more humble pilot and student until you can be confident with what you state. it seems you have a strong desire to fly professionally, which is good. this will get you far. but you need to be a good solid instructor for now, until the outfits start hiring again. i think by late next yr, we'll see things pick up, but mostly for guys with more time.

 

[brokeflyer]

I had to do unusual attitudes in the sim for a plane im already typed in......

The commercial PTS is used and so is the Instrument PTS. The multi is "rating" that is added on to your cert (commercial). No different if you we're just getting a type "rating" for a plane. If you want to fly as a commercial pilot, with instrument privledges in a multi-engine airplane you need to demonstrate the PTS for commercial multi AND instrument. That is why you need to do 2 ils approaches and 2 non-precsion approaches and a hold.
I already provided the reference in the PTS for this.
It's was in my DE handbook as well, and I used to have them do it. It aint that hard to do.

Good luck with your ride, if you practice and just think things through instead of freaking out (a lotta people do) you'll do fine.

It's a tough ride but you'll feel real good about yourself, just don't go out and be stupid and have accident.

 

[brokeflyer]

I'm getting my MEI soon, should be an easy ride BUT...

1. Any advice you wish you would have known before hand?
2. How was your check ride, what maneuvers did you have to do?
3. What questions were you asked in the oral?
4. Was everything as expected or were you thrown a curve ball?

Thanks

1. not really

2. know what EVERYTHING is on the plane....like all the little drain masts, radio antenna, etc.

3. Regualtions about instruction, SE stuff, airplane systems

4. No curve balls, but then I've flown with and sent this examiner many students so we had a good relationship.

 

[ALIMBO]

Where to begin?

1. You want to write lesson plans but demonstrate little grasp of English or grammar.

2. You toss the PTS into a discussion with out reference. I wonder if you have really ever read just one complete PTS.

3. You have just begun Instructor training yet discount people who have taught for decades.

4. You state that because you never heard of a specific certification requirement, that it must not be important. As an Instructor, all requirements are important.

Aviation will kill you if you do not take it serious. If you want to just play around, take up dodge ball.

Folks, Alimbo is just playing around at your expense and is enjoying yanking your chain. He may learn enough to become an Instructor, but IMHO not anytime soon. It is your time to use, but I think you could spend it better elsewhere.

Never argue with a fool - people might not know the difference.
- anonymous

I dont care wat I type on a forum this is not my lesson plan.
I tried to reference the PTS but could not copy it. Look under ratings held and what you need to do you will find your answer.

Im discounting avbug who is a huge tool. Never will I listen to him ther is plenty of other ppl to reference than him.

I've never heard of it and if its important I will be taught it. If not then I guess afer 6 or so instructors its not important. Those instructors ages vary from 21-65+ So hey I dont think its to important.

Yes I am yanking ppl's chain at times but not right now.

 

[ALIMBO]

alimbo seems to be a very angry guy who wants to prove how great a pilot he is. alimbo, this will come in time. you should be a more humble pilot and student until you can be confident with what you state. it seems you have a strong desire to fly professionally, which is good. this will get you far. but you need to be a good solid instructor for now, until the outfits start hiring again. i think by late next yr, we'll see things pick up, but mostly for guys with more time.

Im not angry at all Im a pretty happy guy, and I would say im very humble at least thats wat most of my instructors tell me. I do have a strong desire to fly. I wil try my best to be a solid instructor hence why I asked questions on here to be a humble student. As for your MEI seeing your tt time op I think you will be just fine.