Matthew Berson Salary $33,750

[planejockey]

Planejockey, here's some advice: Don't just do something, SIT THERE!

I've had the pleasure of working with Matt as a CA on the line, and in the sim on a checkride. There's a short list of guys I'd want riding shotgun in either scenario, and he's at the top. He's grossly underpaid.

One Matt on Colgan 3407 would have saved them. That's a harsh and unescapable reality. He's brilliant, he has all his sh!t in one sock professionally, he can fly the fizzle out of a Dash-8, and he could be making an order of magnitude greater than what he earns now if he didn't have the same disease you and I have- the dumbass notion to drive planes for a living. That means you and I- he's worth more than I, and I'm supremely confident the same applies to you.

Beyond the line and everything else, I'd lay down 5 broad coppers (look them up, I have 20, will spare 5) he does more work for his pilot group than you do.

To collect, put your name and picture on FI.com in a new thread, along with salary and the means to prove you're you.

I agree with you, I never said he is not worth the money he earns. I was simply saying that we are underpaid. I am sure he is a fine young man and a wonderful pilot. That being said I admire his courage to on the record with his salary. I am a furloughed guy from XJT, so I know the pain of making little money. I was lucky enough to go back to military gig and build some experience there while waiting for calls to start at the majors. If I see the guy in an airport somewhere I would buy him lunch. As for your question about what I have done for the industry, I would have to be honest and say nothing because I just attended ALPA meetings and informed myself about what XJT and its pilot group were doing.

 

[MALSR]

We can blast these people all we want but the bottom line is that there are pilots among us that are accepting these jobs for employment. As soon as "we" start turning these jobs down, management will stop offering low wages. Pilots should have to join a local union before seeking airline employment, not after.

 

[AirHead99]

At least there is one thing we can all agree upon... Alex Ovechkin is one goofy looking mofo.

 

[waka]

We can blast these people all we want but the bottom line is that there are pilots among us that are accepting these jobs for employment. As soon as "we" start turning these jobs down, management will stop offering low wages. Pilots should have to join a local union before seeking airline employment, not after.

Exactly. Our salary is our own doing. Obviously the dead animal guy's union is far better organized than IBT Airline or ALPA. Just to be clear; You/We are the union.

 

[semperfido]

When it comes down to it, our salaries are fueled by supply and demand. .

as long as there are 100,00 people in line for 20,000 jobs, nothing will change.

 

[rod farva]

as long as there are 100,00 people in line for 20,000 jobs, nothing will change.

Exactly. And the line is getting longer. Nothing will ever change...seriously.

 

[J3 Guy]

And as always, the laid off airline pilots are encroaching into the corporate flying jobs.
They will work for peanuts and screw up the payscale for the profession.

J3

 

[PBRstreetgang]

My special ed teacher never looked like the one there....

Brooke Kohlhorst

(28)
Special Education Teacher
Charles County
$52,549

Proud rider of the short bus too eh?
'splains why we are arline pylets, huh?
PBR

 

[JettBoii]

You know I think that the majority of new pilots that accept jobs at regionals have no idea what they are getting into financially. I think they want to be pilots so bad that they complete the schooling without doing the research into what their pay/lifestyle will be like for the first few years as an F/O and even in some cases as a CPT. I doubt the flight schools even mention what things are going to be like for them once they graduate and get online; it would hurt reduce their enrollment and subsequently reduce the bottom line (profit). The schools just keep showing the pictures of gradutes in their uniforms at the controls of a shiny RJ which sells the product and keeps the school in business. Most of these guys and gals are really young and have do not have the financial foresight to understand just how poor they will be for years to come while paying back their debt one paycheck at a time for the next 15 years. Now they are trapped. It would be a bitter pill to swallow to pack it up and leave the industry after spending a ton of money and commiting so much time to get where they are now; broke and slightly miserable. I know thats not everyone but I bet if you sample a lot of the newer and some of us more senior F/O's that their answer would be "no I would not have become a pilot". We definitely deserve more money and better contracts for the amount of responsibility we have. It is not right.
If I did not have two jobs I would not be able to pay all of my bills. But, I do love to fly and I enjoy my job so I will stay here until I lose my medical or win the lotto. Just my two cents.
Fly safe.

 

[Captain Morgan]

And as always, the laid off airline pilots are encroaching into the corporate flying jobs.
They will work for peanuts and screw up the payscale for the profession.

J3

Haha! It's soooo true... All these internet commando tough guys go on and on about how they should be paid more but then jump ship into a corporate job all the while lowering the bar there. Believe me, I've done it. I fortunately left after I figured out that I shorted myself salary-wise 4 months later.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

JettBoii, I agree completely. I also have to shake my head at anybody that decided to start flight training post 9-11. The industry has been in the crapper for the most part since then, and hasn't recovered since then for various reasons...and I don't think will ever fully recover.

 

[Captain Morgan]

We can blast these people all we want but the bottom line is that there are pilots among us that are accepting these jobs for employment. As soon as "we" start turning these jobs down, management will stop offering low wages. Pilots should have to join a local union before seeking airline employment, not after.

Who do you work for? And if it's a regional, everything you said is just negated.

 

[MALSR]

Who do you work for? And if it's a regional, everything you said is just negated.

Let's see, I don't work for Pinnacle, Colgan, Great lakes, Mesa, Gulfstream, or any other of the dozens upon dozens of bottom feeder regionals. That's who I work for.

 

[lookin4better]

Garbage Collector is nipping at his heels... oh to be so proud!

 

[ePilot22]

JettBoii, I agree completely. I also have to shake my head at anybody that decided to start flight training post 9-11. The industry has been in the crapper for the most part since then, and hasn't recovered since then for various reasons...and I don't think will ever fully recover.

^Lame post, so was JettBoii's post. Way to generalize your feelings on other pilots and flight schools.

Why not shake your head at the pilots flying pre 9-11? It seems to me that those are the people responsible for the industry being in the crapper, not the student pilot post 9-11.






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