Malaysian 777 enroute to Beijing missing!

[densoo]

Thank goodness for some sanity. This makes the most sense of anything that's been said.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Either way, once they find the wreckage they'll find 230 smartphones, all with video of what happened. It's the first thing passengers do when something unusual happens.

 

[Ty Webb]

While I wouldn't rule out an electrical fire or a turn towards an airport, this sure sounds like a theory put forth by someone who doesn't fly pressurized jets.

A tire fire would be outside the pressure vessel... And you would extend the gear, not climb abovevtge service ceiling. The first memory item in an electrical fire would be.... Oxygen masks on, 100%. I'm pretty certain the Autopilot would be off in an emergency power scenario, as well.

 

[ALGFLYR]

Thank goodness for some sanity. This makes the most sense of anything that's been said.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Either way, once they find the wreckage they'll find 230 smartphones, all with video of what happened. It's the first thing passengers do when something unusual happens.

This certainly sounds like a plausible scenario. As far as the 45,000 altitude, I agree with the writer, just how accurate is that primary radar in getting a fix on the altitude from long range...

Anyway, I would certainly like to believe this rather than the pilot or pilots intentionally hijacked or crashed the plane...

 

[Turtle21]

TOUC is much less at 45000feet

At 35,000 TOUC is about 30 seconds, far less time that it would take to climb to 45,000, making any attempt to climb above 35K of no use.

 

[skypine69]

This guy is a f&*%ing moron. He says the transponder and the "secondary tracking radar" was turned off. What the hell is that? I have never heard of such a radar system on any airplane I have flown.

He says pilots have oxygen masks but they are a "no-no" in a fire. Really? I have always been trained to put on my mask and goggles at the first sign of smoke. Maybe they do different in Canada, eh?

He also mentions that it was a hot night in KL and the plane was heavy. Midnight in KL this time of year appears to be about 80 degrees F, not that hot. A 777 with 8 hours of gas on it is carrying less than half the full fuel load, so not that heavy either.

I dont know what a Canadian Class-1 instrument rated pilot for multi engine planes is, but it is safe to assume he doesnt know anything more than Richard Quest does about flying.

Please dont give this clown any more credibility.

 

[Mamma]

Thank goodness for some sanity. This makes the most sense of anything that's been said.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Either way, once they find the wreckage they'll find 230 smartphones, all with video of what happened. It's the first thing passengers do when something unusual happens.

I don't think this guy knows what he's talking about. A nose-wheel well fire? There are no brakes on the nose gear to generate the heat needed to start a fire. In addition, the fire would be hard pressed to fully ignite at 35,000ft. I could be wrong but it seems this situation is not plausible. Second, if it was a fire and the crew pointed the aircraft towards a landing field, don't you find it odd that the fire consumed all the radios and transponder yet allowed the autopilot to operate for about 7 hours per Rolls Royce? Last, just what the heck is a Canadian Class I Instrument pilot anyway???

Rush found a guy who seems to have a better grasp of the subject:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/03/18/retired_777_pilot_calls_the_show

 

[Old School 737]

At 35,000 TOUC is about 30 seconds, far less time that it would take to climb to 45,000, making any attempt to climb above 35K of no use.

True .. But if your using the dixi cups.. going higher is just going to make them less effective .. And if your objective is to suffocate everybody as fast as possible .... But I'm wondering if the plane really went that high .. Hope we find out soon what really happened ..

 

[SENECAII]

Thank goodness for some sanity. This makes the most sense of anything that's been said.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Either way, once they find the wreckage they'll find 230 smartphones, all with video of what happened. It's the first thing passengers do when something unusual happens.

Doesnt quite explain the left turn prior to the last "good night" sign off. and also doesnt address the ELT's not going off after the crash or the black box not pinging their location.They also supposedly recieved an acars message that next morning around 7 hours after departing Kuala Lumpur.
This is also assuming the information being given out by the Malaysian government is accurate.

 

[densoo]

Doesnt quite explain the left turn prior to the last "good night" sign off. and also doesnt address the ELT's not going off after the crash or the black box not pinging their location.They also supposedly recieved an acars message that next morning around 7 hours after departing Kuala Lumpur.
This is also assuming the information being given out by the Malaysian government is accurate.

The left turn could have been to head for an emergency alternate, which they did fly to, but if they were then incapacitated the plane overflew it. Seven hours later it's on the ocean floor. Not sure if ELT can be heard from a satellite from deep under water.

 

[densoo]

True .. But if your using the dixi cups.. going higher is just going to make them less effective .. And if your objective is to suffocate everybody as fast as possible .... But I'm wondering if the plane really went that high .. Hope we find out soon what really happened ..

Former NTSB guy said last night that further analysis has shown that they reputed climb was a misread of a marginal data point, and that it was essentially at 29,500 the whole time. Or maybe not....who knows.

 

[SENECAII]

The left turn could have been to head for an emergency alternate, which they did fly to, but if they were then incapacitated the plane overflew it. Seven hours later it's on the ocean floor. Not sure if ELT can be heard from a satellite from deep under water.

The left turn was supposedly initiated 'prior' to the "good night" call.Why wouldnt they declare the emergency at the same time they were turning towards their emergency alternate.Seems strange to me why they wouldn't at-least say something since the turn was already initiated.
Now there is a supposed Maldive island eye witness that claims to have seen a low flying jet in the early morning hours that next morning.

 

[Capn Butthead]

Some dips?&t on CNN just said that he thinks it's a bad idea that cockpit doors are locked and that we need cameras in the cockpit to monitor the pilots....good luck finding pilots to fly the planes if you do that...moron

 

[densoo]

The left turn was supposedly initiated 'prior' to the "good night" call.Why wouldnt they declare the emergency at the same time they were turning towards their emergency alternate.Seems strange to me why they wouldn't at-least say something since the turn was already initiated.

Didn't know that one. I'm just hoping it wasn't the pilots. I can only imagine what Homeland Security, TSA, and FAA will come up with for us if it was. Cameras, no more jumpseaters, remote control of FMC in flight, annual psych eval, etc.

 

[nwaf16dude]

Military radar can fix a primary target and its altitude.

True, but only if someone had bothered to actually track that individual target with a height-finder radar (vertical scan vs. horizontal scan) at the time of the "event." Unless they are training, they don't routinely do that, so they can't go back and look at a surveillance radar tape and get a precise altitude.

 

[2000Easyguy]

Some dips?&t on CNN just said that he thinks it's a bad idea that cockpit doors are locked and that we need cameras in the cockpit to monitor the pilots....good luck finding pilots to fly the planes if you do that...moron

Yes sir, and back to back dip$hits as well?..not sure if you caught the second moron who parroted the first.