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Bringupthebird said:
There's an end to the magenta line???? Does scheduling know about this?
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Common misunderstanding between "discontinuity" and "disconnect." Magenta line is interrupted by a discontinuity, while my call to scheduling is interrupted with a disconnect. In both cases I have to go into the self-help mode.
 
densoo said:
They had an emergency, set a course for the diversion field, were incapacitated enroute. Plane got to the end of the magenta line and it went out of LNAV into heading, got to the TOD and without resetting MCP altitude and it went out of VNAV into ALT HLD. Flew until fuel ran out. It wasn't the pilots' fault. My guess. Good as anyone else's.
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That's a pretty good guess. Close to what I am thinking. And to anybody all upset about speculating, it's getting to the point if they don't find more than a few scraps floating, that there will have to be some guessing on what happened so we can TRY to learn something from all this. Remember, after a airframe loss like this the airline industry asks itself: "What can we do to not have this happen again?"

I think a lot of the company training centers will concentrate of cabin pressure loss procedures. Maybe more hijacking stuff. We gotta try to learn from this, even if we don't know a whole lot about the details.
 
glasspilot1 said:
Remember, after a airframe loss like this the airline industry asks itself: "What can we do to not have this happen again?"
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They also ask, "where's the liability for this?" For this reason alone I think they will not stop looking for it. Boeing wants to prove it wasn't equipment, Malaysia wants to prove it wasn't their procedures, others want to prove it wasn't the pilots.
 
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glasspilot1 said:
That's a pretty good guess. Close to what I am thinking. And to anybody all upset about speculating, it's getting to the point if they don't find more than a few scraps floating, that there will have to be some guessing on what happened so we can TRY to learn something from all this. Remember, after a airframe loss like this the airline industry asks itself: "What can we do to not have this happen again?"

I think a lot of the company training centers will concentrate of cabin pressure loss procedures. Maybe more hijacking stuff. We gotta try to learn from this, even if we don't know a whole lot about the details.
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Slippery slope Glasspilot. I think we should try to learn from this after the facts are known. Running around applying solutions to "assumed" problems does not necessarily help. Lithium batteries? Hijack? Incapacitation? Pilot suicide? We just don't know but trying to put a fix on this situation without the facts could be pretty broad!
 
scoreboardII said:
ELT's only work if there's anything left of an ELT to work.
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Can SWA planes activate the ELT inflight? All FDX aircraft are so equipped. I thought it was a regulatory requirement. How about other carriers?

Regards,
Fr8doggie
 
Some of the newer planes have a beacon that you can take with you. ETOPS planes maybe? It floats and you can turn it on manually or it turns on automatically when it his the water. The actual aircraft ELT can't be turned on that I know of.
 
redflyer65 said:
Some of the newer planes have a beacon that you can take with you. ETOPS planes maybe? It floats and you can turn it on manually or it turns on automatically when it his the water. The actual aircraft ELT can't be turned on that I know of.
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I see. All FDX aircraft have a control panel on the overhead that lets us turn on the ELT that is hard mounted to the airplane. We also have portable ELTs in the rafts.

It's the first thing I would do if I was having an emergency and not in radar contact/VHF comm.

Regards,
Fr8doggie
 
Sorry I answered to quickly.....there is an ELT switch on the overhead panel. Shows how much attention I pay. Haha. Now where is that USA today?

The QRH does say ' if installed' though...
 
SWA has the aircraft ELT armed via switch, activates at preset G loading, or you can manually turn it on, and two floaty ducky ELT's that are turned on manually and thrown into water.
 
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The simulator they're using on cnn is a replica of a 777 sim. Is that dude in the left seat even a pilot or just some dude who runs the sim for customers?
 
dollacrackho said:
The simulator they're using on cnn is a replica of a 777 sim. Is that dude in the left seat even a pilot or just some dude who runs the sim for customers?
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Apparently it doesn't have an autopilot because he has been furiously hand flying it for a week now.
 

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