LUV Stock to continue slide

[Joey Bagodonutz]

IMO, SWA has already reached critical mass for their business plan. The addition of AT is turning out to be a lose/lose situation. If AT accepts the onerous proposal, the SWA culture will be undermined by 1700 disenfranchised pilots until they retire. If they jettison AT, the costs of doing so are likely more than 600mil. The expressed want to retain "culture" over all else may prove to be a very expensive desire.

I have no vested interest in this outcome. I just like to call the fools as I see them and for once its not Us air pilots. This time, it's SWA management.

 

[Fubijaakr]

There you go.....

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

IMO, SWA has already reached critical mass for their business plan. The addition of AT is turning out to be a lose/lose situation. If AT accepts the onerous proposal, the SWA culture will be undermined by 1700 disenfranchised pilots until they retire. If they jettison AT, the costs of doing so are likely more than 600mil. The expressed want to retain "culture" over all else may prove to be a very expensive desire.

I have no vested interest in this outcome. I just like to call the fools as I see them and for once its not Us air pilots. This time, it's SWA management.

Hide 'n watch, beeiotch!!!

 

[FlyinGuy]

IMO

That about says it all.....no one cares about your "O"!!!!!

 

[Joey Bagodonutz]

Haha. That SWAPA kool-aid must be some strong stuff.

Sometimes it takes an outsider to point out the obvious.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Hate to bust up your rant. But there is not 1700 piss off pilots, most are already moving forward with their life's. Of course we will always have the angrey 12 men. But that's life, they would b!tch if you gave them a gold brick.

 

[GoodTimes]

What's up with the SWA obsession on these boards?

 

[Sy-bill]

What's up with the SWA obsession on these boards?

Its like the tabloids. People like to see the popular go down.

But SWA is the envy of the industry and has been for going on a couple decades so people will dig up any distant negatives to try and cut them down a peg.

I fly on SWA a couple times a month on business and the feedback I am getting from the passengers are they still prefer SWA to any airline and fly them whenever possible.

I have to agree. The employees are friendly as a whole where I find the legacies not to be.

SWA has hired personalities since day one. No matter what is thrown their way the attitudes will not change. There is a wild card with the Airtran folks. But the company is too smart to assume they are not ready for this employee group. Given their history, some of the Airtran employees will lose their jobs because of their attitudes and make an example out of those unwise individuals in the work group they represent which will get the attention of the other Airtran employees. SWA flogs their misfits in public to keep the others in line with common sense limitations. Agree with this or not, it is extremely effective.

I have or actively consulted with six different airlines. And I can say personally that SWA's people are far different than the others.

 

[N1atEcon]

LUV is up 12% this week. Fuel went up about $8.00 a barrel this week too. So in your opinion what should we do? Pilot stock tips are always spot on IMO.

 

[j41driver]

Hate to bust up your rant. But there is not 1700 piss off pilots, most are already moving forward with their life's.

A-friggin-men!

 

[LearLove]

there is not 1700 piss off pilots, most are already moving forward

translation: getting ready to roll over and take it up the a$$.

 

[race#53]

translation: getting ready to roll over and take it up the a$$.

If taking it up the rear means making 6 figures and working 3 days a week sign me and the 14 million other unemployed up!
Never fails to amaze me how out of touch Union members are with the average wage earner making $40,000 per year.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Yep going to take it all the way to the bank.

 

[dooork]

But SWA is the envy of the industry and has been for going on a couple decades so people will dig up any distant negatives to try and cut them down a peg.


SWA was not very well known (outside of TX) 15 years ago.

 

[Dash Power]

Never fails to amaze me how out of touch Union members are with the average wage earner making $40,000 per year.

Whoa big fella.

The major pilots are earning about 70% less than they did in the seventies. That is a constant slide backwards. Not good. A professional is paid on their education and experience. Being tied to a company is what makes pilots different.

If you include the regional pilot flying 70 to 90 seat jets that percentage is much less. We need to stay in touch, ALWAYS, of what our profession SHOULD be paying us.

 

[Dash Power]

SWA was not very well known (outside of TX) 15 years ago.

Not even close to being right.

Southwest was a coast to coast major airline 15 years ago.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Haha. That SWAPA kool-aid must be some strong stuff.

Sometimes it takes an outsider to point out the obvious.

As an outsider to your little world, let me give it a try.......

You sir are a moron....

How is that for obvious?

 

[hockeypilot44]

Its like the tabloids. People like to see the popular go down.

But SWA is the envy of the industry and has been for going on a couple decades so people will dig up any distant negatives to try and cut them down a peg.

I fly on SWA a couple times a month on business and the feedback I am getting from the passengers are they still prefer SWA to any airline and fly them whenever possible.

I have to agree. The employees are friendly as a whole where I find the legacies not to be.

SWA has hired personalities since day one. No matter what is thrown their way the attitudes will not change. There is a wild card with the Airtran folks. But the company is too smart to assume they are not ready for this employee group. Given their history, some of the Airtran employees will lose their jobs because of their attitudes and make an example out of those unwise individuals in the work group they represent which will get the attention of the other Airtran employees. SWA flogs their misfits in public to keep the others in line with common sense limitations. Agree with this or not, it is extremely effective.

I have or actively consulted with six different airlines. And I can say personally that SWA's people are far different than the others.

Try 8 years. Southwest has been the place to work for the last 8 years. It was a terrible place to work (relatively speaking to the majors) for its first 20+ years in existence. I will agree with you though that people like to see the popular go down. I personally am jealous at how much more money the Southwest pilots make than me. I don't want to see Southwest go down. I want to see my airline go up. I want to make more than the Southwest pilots are currently making.

 

[On Your Six]

If taking it up the rear means making 6 figures and working 3 days a week sign me and the 14 million other unemployed up!
Never fails to amaze me how out of touch Union members are with the average wage earner making $40,000 per year.

In 2015 you mean......for most trannies anyway. They really did get the shaft the second time around. Makes you feel great, doesn't it? You'll always be a tranny in their eyes, don't forget it! They won't. And it sure was great of THEIR management to hammer them. Ah, no biggie, right?


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[Captain Fulough]

I personally am jealous at how much more money the Southwest pilots make than me. I don't want to see Southwest go down. I want to see my airline go up. I want to make more than the Southwest pilots are currently making.

Now that deserves a standing ovation. :beer: