Luthi as leader

[squonk]

Hey congradulations! Now you can take a neophyte union leadership into negotiations next year.

Big win for your management. Big loss for the NJ pilots and fractional industry pilots in general.

Just like Walker said. "Devide and conquour.".

They threw the baby out with the bathwater...

Corks were popping all over Bridegeway. Myopia anyone?

 

[rajflyboy]

Bottom line is this

Luthi will be a good guy to have in the bullpen for a needed day during negotiations.

 

[CE750Driver]

Bottom line is this

Luthi will be a good guy to have in the bullpen for a needed day during negotiations.

I disagree. Mark has one mode. Arrogant bull in china shop.

That is great when you hold all the cards, but not so much when you need nuance and actual negotiation skills. His presence would be akin to having a skin rash for both sides, while doing actual negotiations.

 

[fly4funcrj]

One question... Where is Luthi?

 

[rajflyboy]

One question... Where is Luthi?

Good question.

You need someone to fight the fight. You don't need a pushover Sissy in charge of the union.

 

[rajflyboy]

I disagree. Mark has one mode. Arrogant bull in china shop.

That is great when you hold all the cards, but not so much when you need nuance and actual negotiation skills. His presence would be akin to having a skin rash for both sides, while doing actual negotiations.

M. L. Was a big part of the 05 contract. How soon you forget.

 

[OPECJet]

He's also a big part of kicking us off the internal message board and providing little to no guidance on bidding the LTLOA. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind he wrote us off before we even left the property.

 

[CE750Driver]

M. L. Was a big part of the 05 contract. How soon you forget.

What? You mean the one that the company came back in 07 when they didnt have too, to give us more. Yeah, he did great in 05!

How soon you forget. Or, you never got it in the first place.

 

[fly4funcrj]

And just because he made a good (subject to opinion) negotiator, doesn't make him a leader..

 

[BentOver]

What? You mean the one that the company came back in 07 when they didnt have too, to give us more. Yeah, he did great in 05!

How soon you forget. Or, you never got it in the first place.

Yeah no kidding!! All I see in the '05 contract is the senior guys getting rewarded and anybody not on property getting hosed...

If it was soooo good why the heck was the company even willing to up the anti?? Because it sucked so bad for the new guys they were quitting....

Luthi has proven who he looks out for alright...

 

[rajflyboy]

What? You mean the one that the company came back in 07 when they didnt have too, to give us more. Yeah, he did great in 05!

How soon you forget. Or, you never got it in the first place.

If you could read you would know that the ibb was nothing but givebacks. Wont happen this time.

 

[rajflyboy]

Yeah no kidding!! All I see in the '05 contract is the senior guys getting rewarded and anybody not on property getting hosed...

If it was soooo good why the heck was the company even willing to up the anti?? Because it sucked so bad for the new guys they were quitting....

Luthi has proven who he looks out for alright...

And this from someone that didn't want netjets till the 05 contract. Don't even bother posting here anymore. You are a flip flopper.

 

[BentOver]

And this from someone that didn't want netjets till the 05 contract. Don't even bother posting here anymore. You are a flip flopper.

Lemme correct you.. The specific reason I never applied to NJA was the FO terms in the '05 contract... 5 bases and crappy pay... While the rest of the company got to live wherever they wanted..

I eventually applied to Netjets out of necessity..... And luckily only lived under the '05 contract for a very short time... But it was specifically the bases and pay that I didn't apply. Had friends that went there in '05 and '06, I still refused as at the time I had something better.

 

[imacdog]

And this from someone that didn't want netjets till the 05 contract. Don't even bother posting here anymore. You are a flip flopper.

Working at NJA when it was a bottom feeding last resort job isn't exactly a badge of honor.

 

[fly4funcrj]

Raj was probably a 2001 hire

I kid, I kid....