Lowered mins are here.

[on autopilot]

Just to let everyone know, Eagle and PSA have lowered thier minimums to 500tt or less depending on experience and 50 hours or less multi engine. How low will it go? I say give it 3 months or less. No, you won't find it posted officially yet, but both companies have confirmed it. No new pilots comin up at the pilot mills right now.

 

[Metro752]

You won't have people at 1500 by August 2012 unless they hit the line, today. Even then that's being VERY optimistic.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

You won't have people at 1500 by August 2012 unless they hit the line, today. Even then that's being VERY optimistic.

Think of it this way...when they get online they're going to be worked so hard they'll resign before 2012 OR they'll just barely have 1500.

 

[SLUF4]

surely they will get grandfathered in somehow

 

[CX880]

surely you can't be serious.

 

[AMT_842]

Its August 2013.

 

[on autopilot]

surely you can't be serious.

I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.

 

[Jar Jar]

There is no 1500 hour rule.

 

[higney85]

There is no 1500 hour rule.

We have a winner... although I would seriously *hope* we have an ATP rule (1500 and/or other mins) in the bill. There would obviously have to be a timeline to achieve it and a carveout agreement to allow those with under the ATP min to be able to get it in short order from the carriers. It can be applied much like the "SIC" type when conducting a PC. I don't have a personal issue with a 250 hour guy, most of the time you won't even know unless he tells you or you specifically ask... BUT there needs to be something in place that makes sure EXPERIENCE is brought into the market place quickly. We have 250 hour guys flying fighters to protect our freedom, and we have 3K hour CFI's doing pattern work for years before they get hired. EACH has experience, but neither is tailored to the 121 world with their current experience backgrounds. Whether it's more OE, more "green lines" or the like; it needs to be done. You can believe or snicker at the "hiring wave" approaching, but the past shows that a lack of experience and thorough 121 familiarization (in the form of training) has cost many lives. Regs are written in blood; there is more than enough on the FAA's hands at this point.

 

[xjhawk]

yeah once the airlines show that having too high of a min requirement will cause a stoppage of air travel...it will not last long

 

[Metro752]

There is no 1500 hour rule.

There is most definitely a "1500 hour" rule.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

There is most definitely a "1500 hour" rule.

No, there is not.

 

[Metro752]

No, there is not.

Not surprising that you, Uncle Dunkle, would think there isn't. You also probably think they use purple unicorn blood to power the standby instruments in your barbie jet.

Here is the law on the GPO website in PDF format.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ216/pdf/PLAW-111publ216.pdf

Here is ALL ATPS website that explains it pretty well, and provides links.

http://www.atpflightschool.com/airl.../1500-hour-rule/1500-hour-rule-explained.html

 

[Hobiehawker]

There is a law not in effect until August 2013.

Now that seems to be the fact. Read all the material. Not just the beginning.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Not surprising that you, Uncle Dunkle, would think there isn't.

Not surprisingly, you edited your post a few above this once you realized what this conversation was about, you little dweeb.
You originally were complaining that a 500-hr. new hire would not be ready for the "1500 Hr. rule" by August. That is what I replied about, and quit wearing those ugly cowboy boots in the cockpit.

 

[CX880]

If the 1500 rule was in place today, there wouldn't be any pilots available, they can't even find pilots with 1000 now. How do regionals expect to have pilots with 1500 hours 2 years from now when there's going to be mass hiring at the majors indefintely?

 

[higney85]

if the 1500 rule was in place today, there wouldn't be any pilots available, they can't even find pilots with 1000 now. How do regionals expect to have pilots with 1500 hours 2 years from now when there's going to be mass hiring at the majors indefintely?

pfm.....

 

[Metro752]

Not surprisingly, you edited your post a few above this once you realized what this conversation was about, you little dweeb.
You originally were complaining that a 500-hr. new hire would not be ready for the "1500 Hr. rule" by August. That is what I replied about, and quit wearing those ugly cowboy boots in the cockpit.

It seems you have done similar, Bunkle. Leave my boots out of this. The rule of unintended consequences is that boots like the Ariat Roper get more attention, and thus you will see more of them.

I curse you with 100 new FOs wearing boots. Mmmm I love that western leather smell. If I flew with you I'd have a air freshner in my bag that gave off the deliciously sweet scent you so despise.

Giddy up!


http://www.zappos.com/ariat-heritage-roper-black~1

 

[glasspilot]

Metro, are you a chick? The link for the boot you provided goes to a page for ordering boots and they ask for "womens size" and "womens width"

So, are you a chick? I've never saw a female pilot wear boot before. And I've NEVER saw a male pilot wear womens boots either!

Here's the site you linked to, figured I'd post it in order to preserve it...

http://www.zappos.com/ariat-heritage-roper-black~1

 

[Metro752]

Metro, are you a chick? The link for the boot you provided goes to a page for ordering boots and they ask for "womens size" and "womens width"

So, are you a chick? I've never saw a female pilot wear boot before. And I've NEVER saw a male pilot wear womens boots either!

Here's the site you linked to, figured I'd post it in order to preserve it...

http://www.zappos.com/ariat-heritage-roper-black~1

No, but I suppose I owned myself on flightinfo once again. There's nothing else to do but admit it. :bomb:

Men's...... didn't look, sue me.

Nice catch!

http://www.zappos.com/ariat-heritage-roper-black~2