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Low Time Pilots, A Few Questions!

NW_Pilot

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I have a few question’s that may have already been answered; I have been reading the forums the last few days and have not found the answer’s to my questions so I am asking.

1, What typical flying jobs do most low time single engine pilots just over 500 hours get?


2, Is there a list of bottom feeder employers or third world country employers that take low time pilots?



3, By working for a known bottom feeder or in a third world country would that look bad to a future employer? or Cause you to become blackballed?




Thanks A Bunch
 

U-I pilot

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1) By far the largest majority would be flight instruction. Others do banner towing, traffic watch, aerial photo flights and other part 91 operations in single engine aircraft. If you know people you may be able to find Right seat work or go out west looking for SAFE VFR 135 flying (mostly around grand canyon). Those would be the main positions i would imagine....

2) There are some regionals that pick up low time: Great Lakes, CommutAir, and alike that hire under 1000 hours. From what I hear they aren't very enjoyable and pay sucks but upgrades can be quicker....Others can shed some light on the third world country stuff...I have no idea.

3) My advice here would be ask an employer you want to be hired by in the future. There is no better info than that of the company....Send a harmless email saying you are interested in doing everything you can to be qualified for the company and what the "do's and donts" of the industry are.....You may get some great advice....

my .02
 

whaleroast

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I don't know your situation, but for me I flight instructed until I had about 800 hours, and then through the help of a friend I was able to get a job in Southern California flying twins dropping sterile bugs. I work for a regional now, but I would say the biggest key to my advancement in this industry has been:
a) support from those around me that keep me motivated when I have been less than motivated
b) networking
c) willing to do whatever has been asked of me including working multiple jobs while flight instructing, sleeping in the hanger, and commuting.
d) loving the job, hating the life and not losing sleep at night because I'm not making the big bucks.
e) ignoring all of the aholes you'll run into on your climb up the ladder. Everything from anal know-it-alls, sloppy weekenders, pissy ATC, and stupid questions while jumpseating. It's all part of the game.
f) Remembering how bad it was when I was doing what I was before I was flying.
 

NW_Pilot

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[FONT=&quot]My 4th Question Is How Dose One Obtain Jump Seat Privileges? If They Don't Work For An Airline Or Cargo Company?

[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]To build my time right now I have currently been ferrying airplane's its slow & cut throat competitive. Since September I have done 8 total and 5 were from people that purchased their planes on ebay all but 3 have been 1 day only a few hour's per mission! I don’t mind that there is very little money as long as I am able to build some sort of hours with out having to spend much out of my pocket book. I am working on my CFI but funds right now almost prohibit being able to complete it untill spring time.
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Snakum

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Right seat work (logging sole manip PIC) in King Airs, Barons, and Navahos for local corporate operators while instructing seems to be what everyone around here does to get started.

Minh
 

Dangerkitty

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NW_Pilot said:
[FONT=&quot]My 4th Question Is How Dose One Obtain Jump Seat Privileges? If They Don't Work For An Airline Or Cargo Company?[/FONT]
Thats a joke right?
 

Guitar Guy

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NW_Pilot said:
[FONT=&quot]My 4th Question Is How Dose One Obtain Jump Seat Privileges? If They Don't Work For An Airline Or Cargo Company?[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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Go work for the Secret Service or become an NTSB investigator and be travelling to an accident scene.
 

merlindrvr88

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How Bad

NW_Pilot said:
[FONT=&quot]My 4th Question Is How Dose One Obtain Jump Seat Privileges? If They Don't Work For An Airline Or Cargo Company?

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]To build my time right now I have currently been ferrying airplane's its slow & cut throat competitive. Since September I have done 8 total and 5 were from people that purchased their planes on ebay all but 3 have been 1 day only a few hour's per mission! I don’t mind that there is very little money as long as I am able to build some sort of hours with out having to spend much out of my pocket book. I am working on my CFI but funds right now almost prohibit being able to complete it untill spring time.
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How hard are you willing to try? It all comes down to that. Wake up man.
 

NW_Pilot

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I am willing to try very hard! I have already done a lot in the last 2 year's!
 

aeronautic1

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400 hours in the last two years? I do 400 hours in a semi-annually. I say, sharpen up that pencil and log some P-51 on floats time.

Where's you CFI? Why are you not teaching?
 

aeronautic1

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Cp?

I know hwat ASEL is. And I know what an AI is (MX) but what is a CP?
 

JessMan

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Instruct for about a year, you'll get more respect throughout the industry. Then jump to a regional or cargo.
 

NW_Pilot

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aeronautic1 said:
I know hwat ASEL is. And I know what an AI is (MX) but what is a CP?

CP= Commercial Pilot
 

NW_Pilot

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aeronautic1 said:
400 hours in the last two years? I do 400 hours in a semi-annually. I say, sharpen up that pencil and log some P-51 on floats time.

Where's you CFI? Why are you not teaching?

I Just Got My Commercial In Augaust, Working On CFI & Multi Had to dip in to them funds for my airplanes annual, Only reason For 400 hours is I pay for it out of my own pocket! If I had more money would be a lot more! so either your bank account is bigger than mine or you have a job in aviation! I just started ferrying airplanes for people I am leaving tonight to take a Cessna 210 on a 2,000nm trip it's helping build the hours & It's not costing anything but my time and I have more of that than money right now. I may have to maby go on the road as an amp tech again & lose more of my hearing just to finish my CFI. Or sell another house hehehe.:nuts:
 

NW_Pilot

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nondirectional said:
get 100 hours of multi time as soon as you can.

Sure and who's gonna pay for it? hehehehe
 

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NW_Pilot said:
I have a few question’s that may have already been answered; I have been reading the forums the last few days and have not found the answer’s to my questions so I am asking.

1, What typical flying jobs do most low time single engine pilots just over 500 hours get?


2, Is there a list of bottom feeder employers or third world country employers that take low time pilots?



3, By working for a known bottom feeder or in a third world country would that look bad to a future employer? or Cause you to become blackballed?




Thanks A Bunch
Go pay your dues instructing for a bit. It sounds like you are trying to avoid it asking about jobs in third world countries. Instructing isn't to bad(especially being home every night, and making more than some RJ FO's out there).
 
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