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Looks Like Delta Will Be #3 Again...Now Who To Buy?

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My money is on Jetblue. Could be very bad for Jetblue pilots.
 
I think Alaska would be a better fit for DAL than jetblue. The west coast feed is more valuable for the Pacific operations. DAL already has a sizeable domestic network from JFK and the east coast in general.
 
True. However, this company made it from 50 to 100 to 150 to 200 pilots, and so on.... without ever realizing a union was needed. Those at the top half have had more opportunities and time to right the ship. And I have found the top of the list more brain washed than the bottom.

But you can have a different opinion.
 
Most likely not Jetblue. At least not without significant give backs. Some of those slots will have to go to other airlines. American/Usair may fair differently. Either way in a PEA world Jetblue pilots are screwed.
 
Smarta$$ said:
True. However, this company made it from 50 to 100 to 150 to 200 pilots, and so on.... without ever realizing a union was needed. Those at the top half have had more opportunities and time to right the ship. And I have found the top of the list more brain washed than the bottom.

But you can have a different opinion.
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That's a pretty broad brush...
I'm top 17% and given time and/or money to the campaigns.
I've also flown with a lot of junior, "It's better than Mesa" types.
Hopefully, some of the 1193 juicers have begun to see the light.
I'm not getting my hopes up, though.
 
oldxfr8dog said:
That's a pretty broad brush...
I'm top 17% and given time and/or money to the campaigns.
I've also flown with a lot of junior, "It's better than Mesa" types.
Hopefully, some of the 1193 juicers have begun to see the light.
I'm not getting my hopes up, though.
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See, we do agree.
 
msmb said:
Alaska is not for sale...nothing to see here ....move along.
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Agreed, if stock price is any indication, DAL couldn't afford AK. It would cost way to much to purchase just for the increase in market share they would get. Alaska is like Hawaiian, they each have a strong position in the market's they serve and a very loyal customer base. They are worth more as stand alone airlines than they are as merger fodder.
 
Dan Roman said:
Agreed, if stock price is any indication, DAL couldn't afford AK. It would cost way to much to purchase just for the increase in market share they would get. Alaska is like Hawaiian, they each have a strong position in the market's they serve and a very loyal customer base. They are worth more as stand alone airlines than they are as merger fodder.
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True dat
 
Lampshade said:
Allegiant LOL
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Although I concur with your chuckle, actually Allegiant would make a nice investment under the corporate umbrella of another airline. It would not make sense to "merge" under any circumstance but keeping Allegiant as a standalone can make someone consistent money. They have a model that works and has currently been profitable for the last 36 quarters and has more cash than debt. Not a supercarrier by any means but it is profitable! Still, they are better off standalone only.
 
Funny how we all sound like as if we are on the Board of Directors. I hope no one buys us, but Alaska is a small fish in a big pond. It is what it is!
 
Hamfighter said:
Oil refineries are nice and all, but will Delta be happy at number three, behind super-American and United?
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Ham:
If you know anything about Richard Anderson, he doesn't care about being the biggest. He cares about being the best. Unlike Parker, he doesn't have an ego to float. He was very good at bringing NW/DL together with relatively little to no issues. AMR/US will be a disaster in the making. Parker has shown he can't run a "merged airline." What makes him think he can get AA/US together? The only thing at stake here is Parkers massive ego, and the livelihood of all US/AA/AM West employees. I will be watching this from the sidelines with lots of popcorn. Will be one wild ride.

JMHO
YMMV
 
Dan Roman said:
Agreed, if stock price is any indication, DAL couldn't afford AK. It would cost way to much to purchase just for the increase in market share they would get. Alaska is like Hawaiian, they each have a strong position in the market's they serve and a very loyal customer base. They are worth more as stand alone airlines than they are as merger fodder.
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DL could always use AK's cash on hand to pay for part of the acquisition, right? And there was a stock split. If US could finance a buyout of AA, anything could be possible. But, I think they like things the way they are now. My guess would be an airbus operator if anything happens at all. Just a guess!


Godspeed!


The OYSter
 
Dan Roman said:
Agreed, if stock price is any indication, DAL couldn't afford AK. It would cost way to much to purchase just for the increase in market share they would get. Alaska is like Hawaiian, they each have a strong position in the market's they serve and a very loyal customer base. They are worth more as stand alone airlines than they are as merger fodder.
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When an airline has a niche, they get looked at closely by competitors. Nobody is too expensive. If Parker can buy AA, anyone can finance anything. I have a feeling the second round of consolidation will be underway soon after the AA and US deal is figured out. The goal appears to be less competition, period. It will be a bumpy ride for some.


Godspeed!


The OYSter
 
Scoot 11 said:
Ham:
If you know anything about Richard Anderson, he doesn't care about being the biggest. He cares about being the best.
YMMV
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haha .funniest thing I ever heard. Have you ever flown on Delta. Take Atlanta or New York, throw into that the NWA nasties, gate agents from hell and a "the world done me wrong" attitude. I guess it is the best in a sense!
 
Scoot 11 said:
Ham:
If you know anything about Richard Anderson, he doesn't care about being the biggest. He cares about being the best. Unlike Parker, he doesn't have an ego to float.
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Richard Anderson cares about Richard Anderson, saying that guy doesn't have an ego? Well, maybe compared to Trump he doesn't :laugh:
 
shon7 said:
haha .funniest thing I ever heard. Have you ever flown on Delta. Take Atlanta or New York, throw into that the NWA nasties, gate agents from hell and a "the world done me wrong" attitude. I guess it is the best in a sense!
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I'm glad you're amused. If you look at the service provided by Delta compared to Us Airways, you'll see the difference. Parker, in his genius, decided to decrease weight on all his airplanes by removing inflight entertainment. Remember when US Airways started to charge for drinks?
 
Dumb Pilot said:
Richard Anderson cares about Richard Anderson, saying that guy doesn't have an ego? Well, maybe compared to Trump he doesn't :laugh:
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Dumb. I'm saying compared to Doug Parker he doesn't have an ego. If you look at the management teams running airlines today, I don't think you'll find better (I hate to use this word) "talent." The ONLY reason Parker wants into the game is because he has to. As I have stated, "merging," US/AA will be fun to watch. Parker has had how many years to integrate US/AM West? How'd that work out for him?
 

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