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cole said:
Resocha - how long have you been there? I heard the lines are suppose to impove after summer? Is that true? Why have the upgrades slowing down? I thought you guys were getting 400s and 767s starting the beginning of next year. Can they force you to move the frieghter side once it starts up?

Thanks

I've been here a little over 3 years. They say the lines will improve, but I've been through two furloughs (not that I think I'm getting furloughed) and my experience is that management will always put the best spin on any ugly situation. So, although they claim the lines will improve, I'm not going to count on any extra income.

We are getting 400s and 767s. The 400s will begin arriving in 2007 and the 767s by 2009. But there are multiple unknowns: Will they hire directly into those fleets or transition people? Just because JALways is getting the 400s does not guarantee any of us will see it. They've even talked about direct-entry 767 captains (from outside the company), and you can imagine the revolt that would cause.

Until recently this has been a great place to work, but JAL is losing tons of cash and soon will go into severe cost-cutting mode, and JAL has no loyalty to me. I have the type rating and about 1700 hours in the whale, time that will be valuable elsewhere.

Like I said, if you're going to apply here, ask tons of questions. There's nothing really bad about the place, I'm just seeing the same pattern that I've experienced elsewhere, and I'm not optimistic.
 
KAL is looking for 747 guys. Check out Gap Aviation--they are a recruiter. I recently helped a guy with some 747 sim time that will commute out of DFW. Apparently the rule is you can live within 2 hours of any city served by KAL, so for you guys near major cities that just might work.

http://gapaviation.com
 
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Resocha,

Thanks for responding. Are you in your second contract and getting close to upgrade? Can you be transferred to ANK mid contract or do they have to wait till you renew?

Lifestyle is key for me as well. It's the whole reason I'm considering JALways so if I get the interview I'll ask those questions.
 
redhd steppilot said:
Resocha,

Thanks for responding. Are you in your second contract and getting close to upgrade? Can you be transferred to ANK mid contract or do they have to wait till you renew?

Lifestyle is key for me as well. It's the whole reason I'm considering JALways so if I get the interview I'll ask those questions.

I'll soon be up for my second contract. There's debate about whether one can be transferred mid-contract, it all depends on interpretation of contract language. I'd post the lingo but I'm on an overnight and the contract is at home, and I can't remember specifically what is written.

This isn't a bad place to work, but it's not the place that was sold to me during my interview.
 
AlbieF15 said:
KAL is looking for 747 guys. Check out Gap Aviation--they are a recruiter. I recently helped a guy with some 747 sim time that will commute out of DFW. Apparently the rule is you can live within 2 hours of any city served by KAL, so for you guys near major cities that just might work.

http://gapaviation.com

It's for captains only Albie.

We at GAP Aviation are supplying pilots to Korean Air. The next round of interviews has been scheduled in April 2006.
Requirements:
1.500 hours PIC on Type
2.Total PIC of 2000 hours
3.Age limit of 56 years
4.One of the following Type Ratings: B-744, B-777, A-330, or B-737
5. Five year contract (renewable) -- or until retirement age


TP
 
dc10maniac said:
Any more info about coming interviews or JALways ???

Resocha, are you going to renew your contract?

You sound unhappy.

It's not that I'm unhappy, and it's really not a bad place to work, I'm just frustrated at the way the job is becoming. I've been happy here until recently. Regarding renewing the contract, I'm still on the fence. Just a couple days ago I was offered a job with a competitor, and I'm trying to decide what to do. The pay is substantially better, but I may have to move again. Yech!

R
 
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Resocha said:
It's not that I'm unhappy, and it's really not a bad place to work, I'm just frustrated at the way the job is becoming. I've been happy here until recently. Regarding renewing the contract, I'm still on the fence. Just a couple days ago I was offered a job with a competitor, and I'm trying to decide what to do. The pay is substantially better, but I may have to move again. Yech!

R

But JALways is not getting 744?

Shouldn't you wait til' get the 744 type and PIC time on it before start looking for another place to work?
 
supermd11 said:
But JALways is not getting 744?

Shouldn't you wait til' get the 744 type and PIC time on it before start looking for another place to work?

Life is full of the shouldas and couldas. By the time I get to 744 captain, I could have already upgraded at the new job. I have to make my decisions based on what I know today to be the best decision, not what might happen in five-plus years. Unfortunately, forecasting a good position in this industry is impossible. I'd hate to wait all those years to learn that the company will direct-hire 744 captains into what I thought was my seat. The company has made no official announcement that the 744 captains will be from the present JALways classic captains.
 
Floyd94 said:
Anyone drop the $45 to fill out the application for this group?

Wasinc used to be the only one that required the application fee. Try iasco.com and hawaii-aviation.com. They also contract with JALways and didn't require the application fee. There's no reason to pay the fee when others provide the same service for free, unless you're desperately looking for a job.
 
Resocha,
Thanks for the response. So did you sign on with another contract?? HACS has sent my apps out to JAL and JP Express. Do you know anything about JP Express?? Also, How many days did you typically get to spend at home in HNL during any given month while at JAL? Thanks for all you've posted on this thread, as it has been very helpful in my decision process.
 
Resocha,
Thanks for the response. So did you sign on with another contract?


Sorry Floyd that I've been out for so long. I left JALways toward the end of last summer and have recently finished training at my new company. Changing jobs always sucks, and moving especially sucks, but it was best for my family. JALways seemed to have stagnated and I've been down the "we're losing money now but have a great future planned" path too many times to get shafted again. I learned the other day that JALways has pushed back the -400 training at least 6 months, and we all know how that goes when uncertain plans keep changing. I wish all my friends well but that job turned out to be not for me. Resocha out!
 
Sorry Floyd that I've been out for so long. I left JALways toward the end of last summer and have recently finished training at my new company. Changing jobs always sucks, and moving especially sucks, but it was best for my family. JALways seemed to have stagnated and I've been down the "we're losing money now but have a great future planned" path too many times to get shafted again. I learned the other day that JALways has pushed back the -400 training at least 6 months, and we all know how that goes when uncertain plans keep changing. I wish all my friends well but that job turned out to be not for me. Resocha out!

Glad you made the decsion what's best for you and your family and good luck with he new company.
Like you, I have been shafted many times and there comes a point in one's life where YOU have to make it happen and yes, although a new job (and everything that entails) and relocating sucks, sometimes it's for the best.
I currently fly for a foreign 747 operator spending many months away from home and family and I have come to a similar decision to you. We have all heard the tom tom beat about things being planned. I now believe it when I see it. Carrots on a stick are just that. To lure you in or keep you in and then what? Somehow, they never seem to come through or as planned.
It's a small price to pay for peace of mind and it's a question of priorities and values.
Good luck and best wishes, sounds like you made the best choice.
 

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