Long Island Sound LR-35 Crash

[timeoff]

Now Amish's statement is consistant with the NTSB final report, so lets just leave it at that.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20030814X01339&key=1

 

[LJDRVR]

Easy Boys!!!!

Now Amish's statement is consistant with the NTSB final report, so lets just leave it at that.

No, it's not. He included some details, but missed/doesn't understand all the factors. Read the posted link, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them here. Sorry to get my panties in a wad, but I know a lot more about Learjet aviating in general, and the mishap PIC specifically than you ever will.

Don't like it? C'est la vie!

PS- You're right about one thing though, Presidentin' sure is hard.:laugh:

 

[gkrangers]

A very steep bank, at very low altitude, and the flaps came up..stalled...crashed, right?

 

[FN FAL]

It has been very foggy here all day. Reports on the local news say 5 on board, 3 survivors. They say it landed .5 mi. short of runway. Pax were headed to Foxwoods.

That wx don't look all that bad and I wouldn't exactly call this a landing:

http://customwire.ap.org/photos/6/65869cf8-5d7d-4179-8184-eca7a41004ef-big.jpg

News photo of the crashed Pat Robertson plane.

 

[FN FAL]

Does anyone know the circumstances of this crash?

There are more divers looking for pilots, than pilots looking for divers.

GROTON, Conn. (AP) -- A Learjet registered to religious broadcaster Pat Robertson crashed in Long Island Sound while flying in heavy fog Friday, killing both pilots, authorities said. All three passengers escaped without serious injury.

Robertson was not aboard.

The twin-engine Learjet 35 went down a half-mile short of the runway at Groton-New London Airport. Authorities said the passengers were able to get out on their own and were pulled from the water and taken to the hospital with minor injuries.

Preliminary information showed that the plane may have hit an approach light mounted in a cove near the airport, said Christopher Cooper, a spokesman for the state Department of Transportation.
http://customwire.ap.org/icons/spacer.gif


The plane was registered to Virginia-based Robertson Asset Management. The company is owned by Robertson and is separate from the Christian Broadcasting Network, spokeswoman Angell Vasko said.
She said Robertson was not on the plane and rents it out because he uses it infrequently.

"We're still trying to figure out who was on the plane," she said. "It's not Dr. Robertson or (anyone) related to CBN or related to Dr. Robertson's individual businesses."

The company has a leasing agreement with International Jet Charter of Norfolk, Va., which chartered the plane Friday, Vasko said.
http://customwire.ap.org/icons/spacer.gif


Mark Ousley, International Jet's sales and marketing director, declined to comment.

The Coast Guard said the plane took off from Norfolk, Va., and stopped in Atlantic City, N.J., to drop off two passengers before heading to Connecticut. Cooper said those on board were believed to be headed to a golf tournament at the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Mashantucket.

The bodies of the two victims were pulled from the water by the Coast Guard, Capt. Peter Boynton said.

Rachel Waszkelewicz said she heard the crash and ran out of her house and onto her dock, but it was too foggy to see, so she called out to a group of lobstermen.

"Everybody jumped in their boats," she said. "You could hear voices. I don't know if it was from the plane or if it was boaters yelling to them."

Dick Sawyer, who lives in the neighborhood, said, "You could barely see past your hand at the time." Five minutes later, he said, the fog lifted just enough to reveal the jet in the water.

The names of the people on the plane were not immediately released, but authorities said the three survivors were men in their 50s.

Federal investigators believe fog contributed to a similar crash in the same area in June 2005, when a Cessna 182 crashed into the sound, killing four people.

In August 2003, a Learjet 35 trying to land at the airport crashed into three houses before hitting a bridge. The two people aboard were killed. Investigators blamed the crash on pilot error.

 

[JJET44]

There are more divers looking for pilots, than pilots looking for divers.

That's where Survival Systems USA is headquartered.
I'm sure their divers were out helping.

 

[LJDRVR]

A very steep bank, at very low altitude, and the flaps came up..stalled...crashed, right?

Way more complicated than that. Tell you what, I'll write an article about it. Look for it sometime towards the end of June, middle of July.

 

[FN FAL]

That's where Survival Systems USA is headquartered.
I'm sure their divers were out helping.

Looks like the CG was doing the diving, according to the first article posted in the begining of the thread:

A Coast Guard dive team searched the water for the missing pilots. A state police boat, Coast Guard helicopter and Department of Environmental Protection crews also joined the search.

"Our divers are in the area right now to determine if conditions are appropriate for them to attempt a rescue dive," Vance said, adding that rain and storms had been reported in the area.

 

[cabby]

Way more complicated than that. Tell you what, I'll write an article about it. Look for it sometime towards the end of June, middle of July.

I'd like to hear your expert take. I flew the air plane with the same co-pilot two weeks before they crashed. I also personally talked wit some of the line guys in Groton who saw the accident. I also bet with my 6500 hours in lears and personal experience with the pilots and airplane involved my take well be alot more accurate than yours.

 

[FN FAL]

Does anyone know the circumstances of this crash?

Looks like this news story is saying that landing lights were struck during the incident:

The rescued passengers were able to get out of the plane on their own and were taken to a hospital for minor injuries, state police spokesman Sgt. J. Paul Vance said.

The plane went down a half-mile short of the runway at Groton-New London Airport, authorities said. A Federal Aviation Administration spokesman said the jet hit at least one of several approach lights mounted in a cove near the airport during an instrument approach and landed upside down in about 4 to 8 feet of water.