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ALPA is full of secrets.

ALPA claims the secrets protect the outcome of its deals. Those secrets also are the sign of a closed organization.

Closed organizations are not working for an individuals protection but for those part of the secret society.

ALPA has no transparency on important career issues. ALPA calls it politics. I call it lying.

well said, and when they stop paying over 500K in salary and bennies to the head of ALPA. I will reconsider, until then forgetaboutit.
 
. A criminal or civil judgement in the U.S. against any pilot would create new law... Law that would be very detrimental to all of us in the profession.

I am not a lawyer like many on this thread seem to be...

There has been precedence set in the US and western countries for pilots being held criminally liable.

The issue overseas is much more of a problem....


Will USAPA have a 'orange card'..... maybe... but it will be yellow......
 
I just find it a little ironic that this would happen to flight # 5050....

Anyone who would get on a plane when the flight number is 5050.......
 
Imagine that, a letter of praise for ALPA from a former rep:rolleyes:
Not surprising, it is loaded with fear mongering.

Of course ALPA is going to come to the rescue in high profile cases which make the front page. If they didn't, it would really raise eyebrows. How many pilots are let go behind the scenes? How many pilots are let go under the mantra: "ALPA is not here to protect the jobs of BAD pilots?" How many times has a pilot been told "ALPA does not have the money to fight for your case."

Hey, if ALPA helped you out with a medical, good. That's what they are there for. In the end, ALPA is looking out for ALPA national's interests.
 
Rez...why are you anti-USAPA?
 
Laws are supposed to be made by congress and congress alone, not activist judges.

Yet another pitfall Barak or Hillary supporters don't grasp--the inevitable appointment of judges that legislate from the bench if one of those two lefties are elected.

You manage to say something factually incorrect in almost EVERY thread you post!

In fact, US law is based on English common law, where judges do, and are SUPPOSED to make law. The whole "just interpret the law" thing is only a myth. Plus, most statutory law only codifies what the judges have already decided.

To make this simple:

The US and UK have, and have always had, systems where judges MAKE LAW.

France (a civil law country) has a system where only the legislature, and NOT judges, make law.

Every time you hear a right wing commentator say they don't want judges making the law, they are saying they want us to be like France.

Anyway, WTF does any of this have to do with ALPA and US Air? I have no dog in that fight, and I'm glad I don't.
 
The interesting thing will be how the ALPA cheerleaders work with USAPA if it becomes the USAir union.....There is some grandstanding going on now to defend ALPA....However if USAPA becomes the USAir union, then the pro-union folks should support it....After all they will be union "brothers and sisters"......

Time to pop some more popcorn........
 
The interesting thing will be how the ALPA cheerleaders work with USAPA if it becomes the USAir union.....There is some grandstanding going on now to defend ALPA....However if USAPA becomes the USAir union, then the pro-union folks should support it....After all they will be union "brothers and sisters"......

Time to pop some more popcorn........
So does this mean you are a usapa supporter?

73
 
Rez...why are you anti-USAPA?

Because the next decade of international cahnges will require all US pilots on the same page...

USAPA is regressive. They are not even about the present. They can't even vision the future. They are all about the past.
 
The interesting thing will be how the ALPA cheerleaders work with USAPA if it becomes the USAir union.....There is some grandstanding going on now to defend ALPA....However if USAPA becomes the USAir union, then the pro-union folks should support it....After all they will be union "brothers and sisters"......

Time to pop some more popcorn........

Eating popcorn is about the best you can do and offer. You hate ALPA because it is what you wish to be.... you just don't have the skillset and personality to deal with the complex world..... not that ALPA is so great.... but the ALPA volunteers and cheerleaders have one characterstic that you don't.

They are not quitters.
 
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USAPA is regressive. They are not even about the present. They can't even vision the future. They are all about the past.

And what exactly does ALPA promise for the future, besides rolling over on cabotage?

ALPA is and always will be about the fat cats on top getting theirs at the expense of the dues-paying majority.
 
The interesting thing will be how the ALPA cheerleaders work with USAPA if it becomes the USAir union.....There is some grandstanding going on now to defend ALPA....However if USAPA becomes the USAir union, then the pro-union folks should support it....After all they will be union "brothers and sisters"......

Time to pop some more popcorn........
And you know ALPA would not turn down any money for contracted services
 
You hate ALPA because it is what you wish to be.... you just don't have the skillset and personality to deal with the complex world..... not that ALPA is so great.... but the ALPA volunteers and cheerleaders have one characterstic that you don't.

They are not quitters.
Thankyou for this post. It is indicative of the ALPA cheerleader mindset: If you don't agree with us, you're wrong!

Way to foster change, Rez. You're going to abandon it just because it goes against your agenda of saving ALPA? How do you know USAPA would not grow into something beneficial?
 
So far ALPA has shown itself to roll-over for just about any crap that managements want to hand them. ALPA has dug their own grave IMHO.

Pretty obvious that the former US Air pilots don't have much to lose by jumping the sinking ALPA ship.
 

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