Lets talk unions....

[405]

I got two pro-union schmuck's idiot passdowns yesterday. They were both excellent examples of pathetic flight planning. It's the company's fault though. As usual, I get to clean up the mess. I guess if you're a union member you can do your job half-ass and still keep your job.

 

[propsarebest]

I got two pro-union schmuck's idiot passdowns yesterday. They were both excellent examples of pathetic flight planning. It's the company's fault though. As usual, I get to clean up the mess. I guess if you're a union member you can do your job half-ass and still keep your job.

That's what unions do...

protect the weak and the lazy.

 

[D'Angelo]

That's what unions do...

protect the weak and the lazy.

exactly. Once a union is on board its really hard to fire people who deserve it.

 

[405]

405,

fact is the people that were pushiing the yes vote were seen by many as the knowledgable experienced dispatchers in nonconnah. Some people like me questioned and tried to get a balanced reply to which way to vote. most did not.. some i am sure voted knowing they were outa there.. you have to admit the information was not exactly free flowing from the company and sure I did even buy into the union stuff because they came an spoke about stuff.

How did I vote .. irrelevant.. Fact is that the negotiations could have been better organised except no one stood against your intrepid (and bitter) leader.. why they are sharing no information who knows. Hope you are still working on removal... its the only way ..

Heard you all had another exodus ?!!!

Exodus? Yeah, I would call a third of the dispatchers an exodus. The question is why? Is it because of the union or is it management? We never had one third of the office leave before. Curiously enough this exodus occurred AFTER we had our union. I guess our super secret negotiations are going well. I don't know for certain because even though this affects all of us, one person and no one else knows what the hell we are negotiating.

It really doesn't matter how anyone voted now. It's here and it has completely screwed this place to hell.

 

[MalteseX]

Toyota makes $40 million a day in profits.

GM loses $16 million a day. They have no profit.

Guess which one has a "Union" ?

Guess which one makes better cars.
Guess which workers make more money.
Guess which company offers lifetime employment (to workers in Japan only though)
Guess which company offers more benefits

And guess which company loses 16M per day even with non unionized workers in 3rd world countries.

 

[ss9e]

Guess which one makes better cars.
Guess which workers make more money.
Guess which company offers lifetime employment (to workers in Japan only though)
Guess which company offers more benefits

And guess which company loses 16M per day even with non unionized workers in 3rd world countries.

toyota.
toyota.
toyota.
toyota.
GM.

 

[ShutupandFly]

I check the union website for any updates on the initial negtiations the other day and three words pop out at me, "not much progress". I guess this means I better not expect to see any raises or bonus checks for quite a while. Go Union!!! (sarcasm)

 

[405]

We won't see anything for another year. Try this: Roughly figure out how much money you've lost on this deal so far. Before someone jumps in and says "it'll be worth it because of the work rules" and "management can't screw around with you anymore", as I have stated numerous times we already had work rules and management wasn't screwing with us before. What other reason do 33 people need a union? If anyone can enlighten me, go ahead. I just don't get this.

 

[XPOO]

Why is anyone even giving this Union flame-baiter more fuel for his fire? Ignore the @sshole and move on. We all know unions are not beneficial to the overall group of dispatchers at a company. He's just mad that we already knew this and he had to find out the hard way!

 

[405]

You said it, XPOO. Unions are not beneficial to the overall group of dispatchers at a company.

My flame-bait union posts should be ignored? Does what I say hit a little close to home? Are you paying union dues for nothing in return?

 

[XPOO]

No, sorry, no union here. No need for one. 85 total dispatchers, 28 working on any given day, pumping out 70 or so releases in a 10 hour shift. One of the most advanced dispatch offices for our type of operations. Equipment always fixed or replaced pronto. Work as much overtime as you want, swap any shift you want. Trade days as you please. And a pretty good overall payscale according to industry standards. And yet, we do all of this with an in-house Association. No dues! Tell me again how a union is going to make things better for us?

 

[XPOO]

And sorry again 405, I was talking about ShutupandFly when I made the flame-bait remark. Not you, you're cool.

 

[CRJDispatchKid]

Where do you work?

No, sorry, no union here. No need for one. 85 total dispatchers, 28 working on any given day, pumping out 70 or so releases in a 10 hour shift. One of the most advanced dispatch offices for our type of operations. Equipment always fixed or replaced pronto. Work as much overtime as you want, swap any shift you want. Trade days as you please. And a pretty good overall payscale according to industry standards. And yet, we do all of this with an in-house Association. No dues! Tell me again how a union is going to make things better for us?

 

[flyjumpseat]

Yeah - good question. Come on XXOO, fill us all in so we all know where to send our resume's.

No, sorry, no union here. No need for one. 85 total dispatchers, 28 working on any given day, pumping out 70 or so releases in a 10 hour shift. One of the most advanced dispatch offices for our type of operations. Equipment always fixed or replaced pronto. Work as much overtime as you want, swap any shift you want. Trade days as you please. And a pretty good overall payscale according to industry standards. And yet, we do all of this with an in-house Association. No dues! Tell me again how a union is going to make things better for us?

 

[D'Angelo]

No, sorry, no union here. No need for one. 85 total dispatchers, 28 working on any given day, pumping out 70 or so releases in a 10 hour shift. One of the most advanced dispatch offices for our type of operations. Equipment always fixed or replaced pronto. Work as much overtime as you want, swap any shift you want. Trade days as you please. And a pretty good overall payscale according to industry standards. And yet, we do all of this with an in-house Association. No dues! Tell me again how a union is going to make things better for us?

Your absoluetly right. A union would do no good for you what-so-ever. All unions do is rob you blind of 2% of your check every month. Excuse me I mis spoke. 1.95%. I don't want to use false numbers like the hard-core union a$$es who lie for fun just to get their members all riled up. I wish here at comair we had no union. They are unnessecarily shackling us down!!!!

 

[shooter]

No, sorry, no union here. No need for one. 85 total dispatchers, 28 working on any given day, pumping out 70 or so releases in a 10 hour shift. One of the most advanced dispatch offices for our type of operations. Equipment always fixed or replaced pronto. Work as much overtime as you want, swap any shift you want. Trade days as you please. And a pretty good overall payscale according to industry standards. And yet, we do all of this with an in-house Association. No dues! Tell me again how a union is going to make things better for us?

What is an "in-house Association"? And how does it work?

 

[XPOO]

flyjumpseat, I think you already know. And sure, things aren't the best where we work, but hell I don't think a union would do more then SADA.

Association - We have an elected fellow dispatcher as our president and he has a committee that together voices the collective thoughts of the dispatchers to the management. The president is constantly trying to improve our QOL, works hard at it, but makes little lee-way. About exactly what a union would do for us, only no money involved.

 

[shooter]

flyjumpseat, I think you already know. And sure, things aren't the best where we work, but hell I don't think a union would do more then SADA.

Association - We have an elected fellow dispatcher as our president and he has a committee that together voices the collective thoughts of the dispatchers to the management. The president is constantly trying to improve our QOL, works hard at it, but makes little lee-way. About exactly what a union would do for us, only no money involved.

Thanks for the reply. We have "bottoms-up" meetings. Where management comes in for meetings to let us know whats going on and for us to express our concerns in an open discussion. No president or committee, but is a good outlet for us to directly discuss with management. Sometimes things are an easy fix, other times nothing gets done, but we keep trying.

 

[XPOO]

May the never-ending struggle continue, shooter!

 

[homerjdispatch]

The president is constantly trying to improve our QOL, works hard at it, but makes little lee-way.

"Lee-way"? Not a play on words was it, XPOO?? Thats funny!