Less experience showing through at Skywest and others...

[viper548]

How far out were the planes?

 

[bmpilot2003]

Wow someone actually supplied some usefull info here. The point I was making by posting what SOMEONE ELSE said on another message board is that experience is down and some guys arent sure what they are supposed to do. Hundreds of new FO's are a problem. A bigger problem is captains who got the quick upgrade and dont have much experience to draw on and having not had the time to learn from a veteran pilot they flounder a bit when something out of the ordinary presents itself. Flame away but its a point worth considering.

PS- for the toolbag who asked, I fly for a 121 Major where I assure you they are not hiring guys with 1000/100.

Lets debate horrible decisions made by Major airline captains with tens of thousands of hours. Who do you work for we can debate bad decision made at your airline. As for 1000/100 what do you have against skywest? Skywest has some of the highest mins in the industry. By the way most of the people at Skywest who got quick upgrades came from other airlines and had prior airline experience. But you wouldn't know that from the outside looking in would you? Tool box huh... how old are you?

 

[Metro752]

It was a normal day in Denver... THE DAY ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE!!!

I've scene it too! Awesome!

 

[Way2Broke]

It was a normal day in Denver... THE DAY ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE!!!

My favorite FAA video of all time!

 

[Sedona16]

Lets debate horrible decisions made by Major airline captains with tens of thousands of hours. Who do you work for we can debate bad decision made at your airline. As for 1000/100 what do you have against skywest? Skywest has some of the highest mins in the industry. By the way most of the people at Skywest who got quick upgrades came from other airlines and had prior airline experience. But you wouldn't know that from the outside looking in would you? Tool box huh... how old are you?

I flew for a Delta Connection carrier. I have no doubt we crossed paths at least once in my years of regional flying. Funny thing is we probably are in full agreement RE the Skywest 65% unless I am missreading your avatar. The point I was making in posting what another said is that with the relative inexperience at the regional level and low time teething, documented and undocumented screwups are on the increase. I have lots of friends at skywest, many who are some of the sharpest pilots I have ever met. They often times are baby sitting guys with record lows in experience, at least in the past few decades. Add some low time captains (those not from other carriers) and the risk goes up.

I assure you in my flying at the majors i see far fewer mistakes especially where it is related to experience. Do we still have some cowboys who make poor choices. Yes they are out there. Day in and day out though I can tell you the professionalism I see on a daily bases is incredible. The detailed briefings and carefull thought processes I see in action are much higher than what is being taught and many time used at the regional level. It makes me realize how poor my own communication was as a regional captain. These are my observations...flame away.

 

[Bako Cap]

The big question is; Was it their freedom leg and did they have a tight connection for their commute?

 

[pilotshan]

It was a normal day in Denver... THE DAY ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE!!!

Best movie ever!! Can't wait until recurrent to see it again!

 

[Crash Pad]

Ok I'll admit it... It was me. There I was on final in my CRJ 200! Microburst Alert + or - 60 knots on short final.

I look to my right. This kid must have been about 21 years old with 500 total. Panic in his eyes. "should we go around?" I look this Riddle puke right in the eyes and tell him "on time arrivals are job one here at SKYW! You want a bonus or do you want to go around?"

I turn up the volume on my IPOD so I can here it over the GPWS... I left my backpack in an overhead! Looks like I won't be able to video tape this approach and post it on youtube.

Persperation is forming on my mirrored sunglasses and my frosted, spiked hair is suddenly starting to show wear... Then the turbulence starts and... out of nowhere a voice comes over my IPOD "SKYW 342 do you want to go around".

FEDS! How will I show Southwest I can handle the 737 if I can't even land the RJ in these conditions. What will continental think if I don't at least try to force a landing. Reluctantly I shove the power forward. Riddle puke to my right has soiled himself so I tell him to go in back and clean up so I can sulk alone.

2400 total with 900 PIC turbine and still no stories about how I handled an emergency.

 

[shamrock]

This is yet another Skywest bashing flamebait......


Maybe ALPA should push for higher experience requirements....... Sorry what was I thinking......

You take issue with "Skywest bashing flamebait" but overlook the fact that you do much the same thing when you use virtually every thread as a forum for your anti-ALPA views.

 

[John Pennekamp]

This is yet another Skywest bashing flamebait...... The experience level is getting scarry everywhere.... Some of the worst examples I have seen come from Mesa..... I watch them take off in AVL on a regular basis without turning on the runway lights..... I assume they don't know about PCL..... I have watched Delta land in thunderstorms with microburst conditions.....

This isn't a Skywest issue...... this is an industry issue.....

Maybe ALPA should push for higher experience requirements....... Sorry what was I thinking......

Well said!