Legal things that aren't safe at all

[TonyC]

Supplemental International Part 121-Totally unsafe but legal

Why, that's FedEx!










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[LAZYB]

Ain't that the truth...

Supplemental International Part 121-Totally unsafe but legal

Pt.91 positioning flights that significantly exceed 12 hrs...

 

[414Flyer]

The unofficial "Charted Visual" to Runway 17 at KSPS.

Oh, memories of the hong kong curve, a pretty steep turn, low and on short final for 17, to keep from overflying the ENJJPT ramp and the other runways.

 

[TDTURBO]

Peeing on an electric fence..legal(unless the farmer catches you) but something that would most likely sting.


Funny you mention that, I did it several times and nothing happened, wives tale. It won't travel up moving streams I guess, or it had gaps in the flow, either way I used to do it all the time on the farm when city boys were around and pretend like I was getting shocked and took it, then I would say it was there turn, no takers, stange huh?

 

[A Squared]

What's this supplemental 121 business? I'm from Canada so we don't have that. The closest that I can think of that we have is extended charter.
--Bongo

Bongo, a supplemental carrier is one flying cargo, or unscheduled passenger service. If that carrier is operating internationally with a 3 man crew, the duty rules are *very* permissive. About the only short term limit on flight time is that you may only fly 12 hours of flight time in 24 hours ... no limit on duty time. Now this is bad enough if you are flying a 747 across the ocean on autopilot in the flight levels, but it gets worse. For whatever reason, Supplememtal 121 flights within the State of Alaska are considered international. Why, is not clear to me. Ceratinly from a fatigue standpoint, there is no significant difference between flying from Anchorage to Nome and flying from Boston to Washington DC. Anyway, the upshot is that it is perfectly legal to schedule a crew for a 18+ hour duty day, flying 11.5 hours of 1 hour legs flying numerous approaches in crappy weather. and you could legally do that 2 days in a row, as long as the crew had 16 hours of rest before the next flight assignment. legal, but perhaps not terribly safe.

 

[mar]

Couple more...

VFR "over the top" in a single engine.

Night time visual approaches on dark, cloudy, featureless nights.

I disagree with EagleRJ (which is actually pretty uncommon in *this* forum) about 121 ops into uncontrolled fields.

Just my personal bias. I'm sure some people have absolutely no problem with a visual approach that's as dark as a coal miner's colon.

 

[paulsalem]

IFR in class G w/o talking to ATC

 

[EagleRJ]

I disagree with EagleRJ (which is actually pretty uncommon in *this* forum) about 121 ops into uncontrolled fields.

If it's a quiet airport, I don't have any problem. When it's a hornet's nest of student pilots in the pattern, weekend warriors not using the radio, instructors flying the wrong way on a practice approach, and limited or no radar traffic advisories, it's not a place an airliner belongs.