Legal things that aren't safe at all

[midlifeflyer]

Quite illegal according to ;

The reg that covers all that wasn't covered. 91.13!

This one is also covered by 91.9(a). If you fly in that cell, you'll definitely exceed the aircraft limitations.

 

[EagleRJ]

Someone isn't too happy with the contract that he agreed to.

Well, I wasn't here to agree to that scheme, nor did those who were here have a chance to agree or disagree to it.

The topic of the thread is things that are legal, but not safe. Taking a 3000TT new-hire and rushing him into the left seat of a jet, and making him fly with the very person whose job he took- is not safe.

 

[Lrjtcaptain]

when i have an aircraft doing a touch and go and a plane behind him fullstop. I don't have 3000ft between the 2. We are looking at 2800ft but now I have to send the aircraft behind around, he's already moving a decent speed I.E. usually a Cirrus that can't slow down and now instead of closing the gap and not sending #2 around we are now having a quicker plane over take a plane just departing but that is what is legal. Kind of stupid but I have to do It or I could loose my job.

 

[Dangerkitty]

The topic of the thread is things that are legal, but not safe. Taking a 3000TT new-hire and rushing him into the left seat of a jet, and making him fly with the very person whose job he took- is not safe.

Yeah, I guess I can see your point.

 

[paulsalem]

Being able to hop into a turboprop with no training required. IE caravan.

 

[pwendell]

Flying an experimental Rotorcraft with only Airplane category rating(s) and no training.

 

[HAL]

Low time pilot, unfamiliar rough terrain, uncontrolled airpace, VFR minimums (1 mile, clear of clouds) = crumpled aluminum. Legal, but very unsafe.

HAL

 

[XTW]

Well, I wasn't here to agree to that scheme, nor did those who were here have a chance to agree or disagree to it. QUOTE]


In essence, you did agree to it when you accepted the job under the current agreement. The job was not forced on you.

BTW, not all flowbacks are 3000 wonder-pilots. Some of them have been around quite a while, some even with 121 PIC time!


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[FL000]

Never done it before but you could take off 0-0 under IFR in Part 91

Not fun.

 

[Dangerkitty]

In essence, you did agree to it when you accepted the job under the current agreement. The job was not forced on you.

BTW, not all flowbacks are 3000 wonder-pilots. So of them have been around quite a while, some even with 121 PIC time!


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I like your points even better!!

 

[JimNtexas]

Never done it before but you could take off 0-0 under IFR in Part 91

I've done that a couple of times in order to escape from KAUS in the early morning. The fog is about 100-200' thick, and there are unfogged airports (lockhart, smithville, san marcos) near by.

It's scary at rotation, but a rush when you pop out of the fog and see tower cab sitting on top of the layer.

 

[Checks]

Being able to hop into a turboprop with no training required. IE caravan.

I must disagree, that Caravan is the easist airplane to fly that was ever built. No need to go to Flight Safety or any of that other stuff.

 

[paulsalem]

I just mean hoping into a turboprob and needing no prior instruction on turbine engines, and how to run them.

I just used the caravan b/c you don't need a high alt endorsement

(I figured someone would try to use that as traning on turbine engines)

 

[jackbo]

Getting your instrument rating with 0 hours of actual insturment flying.

I'll go you one better... Getting hired at an airline with 0 hours of actual instrument.

How about airlines that upgrade people at ATP mins and don't require they have ever flown in ice, t-storms, etc. How's that for fun???

 

[nosehair]

Only 5 hours of solo x/c and never going more than 50+ miles away from home base to become certified as a Private Pilot legal to fly fast moving high load airplanes with 5 or more pax anywhere in the country anytime.

 

[RightPedal]

If you don't break anything, you don't scare nobody or piss somebody off, you don't get caught, or killed, you learned something for the next time.
Oh, and define "Illegal"........A sick Bird.

 

[100LL... Again!]

Special VFR. It has a time and place, but I know we've all heard people getting it when better judgement says otherwise.

In my mind, special VFR is a tool that can be used for very special circumstances, and should only be used when absolutely necessary.

One example: Airport is under a 900 ft ceiling, but that ceiling only extends two milesthen the wx is clear. Pilot is familiar with the area, no significant terrain or obstacles. Good to go, I should say.

Another scenario: Returning from the practice aera wth a student, same wx as the above example.

Light twins that can't climb on one. I know this is probably most light twins out there, but everytime we takeoff that is a risk that has somehow been deemed acceptable. Charts say you'll get 50'/min or so, but I know the loaded Navajo doesn't stand a chance. Hence the takeoff briefing which includes a prayer for letting the engines run for 2 minutes. I know I've said that prayer before.

I do not think that this is more dangerous than a single, provided the pilot is able to keep control of the aircraft.

You can argue that even if you can't reamain aloft, the other engine gives you a really good glide angle and more landing options, especially if you had some altitude to start with.

The bigger threat is the typically poor airmanship of the average light twin pilot (speaking primarily of non-professionals, of course).

Unless I am much mistaken, more people have been killed by the pilot failing to keep control of a twin that COULD climb on one than have been killed by a controlled crash in a twin that could NOT climb on one.

That said, there is not limit to poor airmanship at the private pilot level. People have managed to die after engine failures in centerline-thrust twins.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Joining the Mile High Club without an autopilot as PIC in actual IFR!!! Any of you done that?!!!

Why, yes...I'm a member: Solo Airmen's Division

 

[check6]

Two words:

Personal Limitations

 

[paulsalem]

Two words:

Personal Limitations

We're talking FAA limitations here though.