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Cometman said:
I agree with you. However, you never have something new to post. It is the same thing over and over and over. If you cannot come up with something new please stay off so we can read new things.
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Really? NOTHING new to post? Really? Maybe a lot of you need to review certain themes, that are basic and true. Also, feel free to use the ignore function. If you can't handle the truth, use ignore.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Cometman said:
I agree with you. However, you never have something new to post. It is the same thing over and over and over. If you cannot come up with something new please stay off so we can read new things.
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Actually, he broke some new ground when he recently disparaged a dead man.

Right here:

General Lee said:
Riiiiiiight Bubba. You TRY to make it sound like everyone was holding hands, cheering and jumping up and down. You and everyone else knows that is untrue. You live in a FANTASTIC fantasy originating in Lubbock. Ask some AT pilots on here if they agree with you.... Oh wait, they must be wrong according to you... The ONLY AT guy who will agree with you is Max Blast, and he is running for VP of Flt Ops...


Bye Bye---General Lee
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Genius posted that on 25 Nov 13.

Stay classy, my Deltoid friend.
 
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Whoops!

Of course the General loves to speak his opinion (and it's the same post over and over), then in the same breath states that his opinion is fact. Very rarely does he actually touch on the real facts. He used to be useful.
 
LiveFreeorDie said:
Too bad the moderators won't just delete all off topic posts.


This thread would be 70% shorter and ten times more useful to the author who wanted to get opinions on jumping ship.


I wish you luck in your decision, polishing off the resume and interviewing isn't a bad idea, then make the tough choice when you have the option. And if you make 140k as a Swa of for twenty or 250k as a delta capt ten from now, ask yourself will it really make your life more enjoyable. If yes then do it. But I find the poor kids in Belize are happier than 95% of the rich kids in my neighborhood...I wonder why.
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Really?

I don't think a ten year Captain at Delta will be making that. That is what senior wide body does there with 20+ years in.

And a 20 year FO at SWA will average more than 140k a year unless he is on reserve the whole time.
 
JT12345 said:
Really?

I don't think a ten year Captain at Delta will be making that. That is what senior wide body does there with 20+ years in.

And a 20 year FO at SWA will average more than 140k a year unless he is on reserve the whole time.
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I just flew with an FO who is on pace to do $250K this year. I'm only on 4th year pay and will break $140K. I also believe a 20 year SWA FO will also break 140K
 
SplitBar said:
I just flew with an FO who is on pace to do $250K this year.
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I wonder how many nights he spends in his own bed. My guess is...very few. And while I'm guessing...I'll bet dollars to donuts he's including per diem, retirement and likely rounding up.

Your results may vary.
 
Clyde Frog said:
I wonder how many nights he spends in his own bed. My guess is...very few. And while I'm guessing...I'll bet dollars to donuts he's including per diem, retirement and likely rounding up.

Your results may vary.
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In other words....riiiiighhhht. Someone is getting high on his own supply.
 
tankerhead said:
Actually, he broke some new ground when he recently disparaged a dead man.

Right here:



Genius posted that on 25 Nov 13.

Stay classy, my Deltoid friend.
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Disparaged a dead man? This is an anonymous board. I have no idea who is who. Stay classy? I always do. Remember the word "anonymous." Just because you might know someone on here, doesn't mean everyone does.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
redflyer65 said:
Whoops!

Of course the General loves to speak his opinion (and it's the same post over and over), then in the same breath states that his opinion is fact. Very rarely does he actually touch on the real facts. He used to be useful.
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Says the guy I continually smash in any debate on this forum.... And your facts are extremely weak, and mostly out dated. Hey, keep being so useful to everyone. If you continue, there will be thousands of defectors over to the big 3.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Clyde Frog said:
I wonder how many nights he spends in his own bed. My guess is...very few. And while I'm guessing...I'll bet dollars to donuts he's including per diem, retirement and likely rounding up.

Your results may vary.
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You must not understand being "senior in category." Being a senior FO might mean making more than a Capt, primarily because you can pick up double pay trips etc, and still make lots of cash, for very few extra nights away. You can even do day trips that pay double, especially if you live in base. That way, you can sleep at home most nights.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Clyde Frog said:
I wonder how many nights he spends in his own bed. My guess is...very few. And while I'm guessing...I'll bet dollars to donuts he's including per diem, retirement and likely rounding up.

Your results may vary.
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I agree with the being away from home, unless it's turns and reserve days .


We have captains making over 350K. I would assume an FO could make 250 ,not counting company match 401k. And PS.
 
slaquer5 said:
I agree with the being away from home, unless it's turns and reserve days .


We have captains making over 350K. I would assume an FO could make 250 ,not counting company match 401k. And PS.
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I know several Lances that out earn me every year, and I'm a maxed out Capt.
 
Clyde Frog said:
I wonder how many nights he spends in his own bed. My guess is...very few. And while I'm guessing...I'll bet dollars to donuts he's including per diem, retirement and likely rounding up.

Your results may vary.
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He might be on the road a lot, or he might not be if he's flying premium time turns. I doubt he's going to the trouble to see what the per diem is and adding it back in. I'm close to 180 and I'm half way up the payscale. And that doesn't include per diem or retirement. If money is your deal, it's here. If time off is your deal, it's here too. Plenty of options.
 
Beech Balls said:
Just imagine for a moment.

5.5-6 yr FO, early 30s, at SWA.
Still in the bottom 10% (believe it or not.)

Upgrade is a total of 20-21 years.

Morale is getting stinky here.
We've bungled Hawaii, Class 2 nav, our route structure, we're late.
Our CEO is more focused on saving money than growth.
Contract neg. are going nowhere.

Work rules are ok, pay is good.

Given the massive retirements coming, would you consider leaving for AA or Delta??

Why or why not?
Discuss.....
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If you have less than 5 years with SWA i would say go to Delta hands down
 
redflyer65 said:
He might be on the road a lot, or he might not be if he's flying premium time turns. I doubt he's going to the trouble to see what the per diem is and adding it back in. I'm close to 180 and I'm half way up the payscale. And that doesn't include per diem or retirement. If money is your deal, it's here. If time off is your deal, it's here too. Plenty of options.
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If Lubbock or Midland is your deal, go to SWA...


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Cometman said:
There you go again. Repeating things over and over. You really need to come up with new stuff or stay off this site.
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Thanks Dad! There you go again old man. You really need to take your fiber and lay an egg.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
I'm thinking if you want a occupational rollercoaster ride on a company who runs from their bills when times get tough, Delta is a great choice!!
 
Go to the new AA - pay will be top and highest international growth (huge orders of wide bodies in the works currently) of all 3 legacies. Seniority will be set in 2 years from now. Overall, highest pay and fastest growth and quickest climb in seniority - at the new AA is where you should go from your current situation. Good luck!
 
dalad said:
Your best bet is to stay put. This industry is littered with guys who have left for "greener" pastures.
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I'd agree unless you were in the bottom third at SWA. You really have nothing to lose if you get on at the beginning of a large hiring wave. The big 3 legacies all will have tremendous upward movement.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
HowardBorden said:
Despite what GLee says, this is absolutely 100% correct.
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Yeah, not even the bottom guy at SWA could attain a better life at a big 3 legacy......he's won the lottery according to you Howie....

Looks like the guy who started the thread may disagree, he seems to have issues that need clearing up. But, according to you, he is 100% WRONG.....


Ohhhhh Howie......


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General Lee said:
Yeah, not even the bottom guy at SWA could attain a better life at a big 3 legacy......he's won the lottery according to you Howie....

Looks like the guy who started the thread may disagree, he seems to have issues that need clearing up. But, according to you, he is 100% WRONG.....


Ohhhhh Howie......
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If you had any reading comprehension, you would have seen that the post that I quoted refereed to the industry being littered with those that got burned leaving for greener pastures. That is a fact that even you, in your infinite quest to be Captain Obtuse, cannot deny.
 
Double post


Bye Bye---General Lee
 

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