Leave Delta for Jetblue???

[2auburn]

pulled the post because the thread was going to end up as a pissing contest and not constructive thoughts

 

[jmorgan]

I am in the same boat that you are in. I have about 200 below me at Delta and am worried about being furloughed again! I would wait to see if we do in fact get furloughed. If we do then go to Jet Blue, you do not have to give up your # at Delta and you could alway go back if Delta turns things around. It is all about options.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

If you haven't got your stuff in already, do it and don't look back if you get the offer.

 

[sayagain?]

Go to Jetblue and start over for the peanut wages

Good way to not start a fight.

 

[Sailpilot]

Has JetBlue made the offer? If not it takes about 1 /12 to 2 years before the call. Then there is that little thing called an interview.

 

[SWA/FO]

Jet Blue baby!!!!! Don't look back run!!!! Is your name Mark?

 

[FreightNazi]

Just looking for any thoughts about leaving Delta with a little less than 6 years invested, 33 years old, furloughed for 2 years, recalled in 2004, have about 300 behind me now, live local, $98/hour (soon to be reduced), chance of being re-furloughed, etc.

Go to Jetblue and start over for the peanut wages (I know they get better), no contract, commute to JFK, 5 year contract, chance to be on the front of the hiring wave, new airplanes, young workforce, etc.

Not trying to start a fight just looking for constructive thoughts.

Respectfully,

Why don't you try UPS or FedEx?

 

[B6Driver]

Because JetBlue is really a great place to work.
Please, only choose to work here if you really want to.

 

[Yank McCobb]

Why don't you try UPS or FedEx?

Why don't you try NOT pretending for a while?:laugh:

 

[Booster]

DL vs B6

Even if you are undecided right now put all your info in on the B6 site and get that ball rolling. When/if you get the interview and job offer (at least a year down the line) you can make your decision then. You'll know a lot more about Delta & Jet Blue situation by then.

Good Luck

 

[AMRCostUnit]

Just thinking out loud here...if you live in local in ATL what about Air Tran. Having had to do a few times in the past, commuting is no fun at full pay and is expensive. Stay local and fly and work on a Plan B that can give you some freedom from the airline business.

Unit
Not Free Yet

 

[2auburn]

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[Yank McCobb]

and by the way $37/hour is peanut wages for a 100 seater (190 first year)

Make sure you tell them that at your already scheduled interview. Not that it's anything that they don't already know, but I think it's important that they know that you understand this.

 

[semperfido]

. having already been told in my career I would "be a Captain in 3 years" (TWA 1996)

....those b***ards told me the same thing at OZ in 1986:smash:

 

[KC-10 Driver]

Tough call -- obviously, you want to have as many options as possible.

When do you think a potential furlough might hit you? If not furloughed, would you take a leave of absence from Delta (would they allow you to do that to go to JetBlue?), or would you have to resign?

Don't get me wrong -- I'm very happy at JetBlue, but I also know that there must be a huge discomfort factor leaving a job one knows for another one.

I believe going to JetBlue would almost certainly be a good move, but nothing is guaranteed. As I said above, it's good to have as many options as possible.

 

[JethroF15]

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So why did you go and remove all your posts? Worried about something you said?

 

[Dizel8]

It would appear that way and from the quotes, it seems to make sense

 

[semperfido]

seemed fairly innocuous to me....you really think the web police are lurking?imp:

 

[canyonblue]

So why did you go and remove all your posts? Worried about something you said?

leaving Delta with a little less than 6 years invested, 33 years old, furloughed for 2 years, recalled in 2004, have about 300 behind me now, live local.

Sounds pretty anonymous to me.

 

[2auburn]

nothing to hide just did not want to start a pissing contest

 

[AA717driver]

....those b***ards told me the same thing at OZ in 1986:smash:

fido--They were right. You were a captain within three years... Captain on a King Air. TC

 

[AlbieF15]

2Auburn,

FWIW, I have helped a whole bunch of folks from majors who have gone on to JetBlue. They ranged from a current 12 year UAL Captain (really!) who quit to some Delta folks who were furloughed after being on the line only a few months.

I think most have decided that the upside of a better atmosphere at work and the potential for growth, coupled with the prospect of no chance of a recall for a loooong time made the jump worthwhile. However, leaving ANY organization and starting over is a significant emotional event.

One poster said try UPS or FDX. I'm helped folks from majors at both. You give up family passes and (if important to you) walking through terminals and dealing with the public. You get the most stable job in the industry, albeit with some tough flying if you are junior. Commuting to either of those from ATL would be easy.

My gut says JB is a great place to work--but you are on the line (not f-lo'd) at a company where there is a chaotic number of retirements and a rapidly changing structure. I dont' know if you'll get shown the door, but if you look at your paycheck AFTER the lastest givebacks and compare them to starting over at JB on the RJ, you still might be better off staying. Compare your healthcare, etc to the United Healthcare at JB and see what works best for you. Then factor in commuting stress.... If jumping still makes sense--press on and good luck. If the math doesn't work but you really want to leave, I personally think Airtran should be in your crosscheck--if they'll have you. I don't know if/how many ex-Delta they've hired. FDX has taken several guys like you, however, so perhaps you could network in that direction.

War Eagle and good luck in any case.

 

[B6Driver]

Albie15,

What kind of response is that?
If you're going to use all that level headed thought and common sense in answering fellow posters, you'll ruin all the nasty flame baiting to follow.
Then what; cats and dogs living together; I shudder to think.

 

[Melon]

I didn't think the 190 was an "RJ"?

 

[AlbieF15]

Semantics. Compare what you make NOW make at DAL and after the next cuts to what you would make on the (whatever you want to call it) E190 at JB. Then do the math...

 

[wndshr]

Semantics. Compare what you make NOW make at DAL and after the next cuts to what you would make on the (whatever you want to call it) E190 at JB. Then do the math...

just wondering how long will an upgrade take at delta now that their was a whole bunch of retirements. how long to hold 777 FO? will 777 FO or 767 FO pay more than a B6 capt after the cuts? B6 320 CA takes how long if hired today?

 

[klhoard]

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I would also factor in the ability of DALPA getting back the wage concessions in the future with a collective contract vs. individual contracts. . .
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[FlyAuburn]

You can come over and then leave after 2 years if things turn around at DAL. From talking to friends at both places, I don't think you will go back.
BTW, this is one bad "RJ". The HUD is nice. Don't hate because is only 100 seats. Check out the length. War Eagle!

 

[semperfido]

The HUD is nice.!

HUDs are overated

 

[AIR2MUD]

HUDs are overated

No, they're not. I get out of my weekend ride, and hate not having it in the billpayer airplane!

That mean machine you fly should have spoiled you by now, expecially with EVS! Wish I could boresight the TGP on my weekend ride and display it on the HUD like family model Eagle drivers can.

Wishful thinking.