Lear 45 "bat outta hell" departure at KAUS

[LAZYB]

That being said, I flew with a captain once who did a "vertical" takeoff at TUS to impress the ground crew at the FBO, but without telling me first. Pulled the gear and flaps up on takeoff, put on the yaw damper, and stayed about 10 feet off the deck until the end of the runway. Then pulled up to about a 45 degree deck angle and climbed like hell. It was fun after I got over the initial shock of it, I guess, but I still gave him major hell for doing that without telling me. What if we had stalled right there at 10 feet if he pulled up too hard?

That same captain was killed a couple years later when he crashed his Lear. It's true that there are no old, bold pilots.

Hmmm, sounds like a guy who flew freight out of TUS, on a DHL contract, for Direct Air. He did an aileron roll coming into PHX. And his demise wasn't a question of IF, but WHEN? No surprise.

 

[FL350]

I'm not sure I would call it slow. It is no Citation X in cruise but it will do .82. When you get it up high (above FL370) it does slow down some.

 

[banned username 2]

I wouldn't really call the cruise all that slow. At FL410 I usually got about .76-.77 Mach. Down in the mid 30's it was easy to get .80 Mach.

That's slow... I just did an Atlantic crossing at M0.85 & FL450... And we were heavy, that was part of a nearly 11 hour flight...

 

[GravityHater]

That same captain was killed a couple years later when he crashed his Lear. It's true that there are no old, bold pilots.

another way I have put it is,
"Never get bored while flying." Very dangerous.

 

[anchorman]

Hey FL350: Its been a while since I flew the Lear 60, but if memory serves me right the MMO is .81 Hope you haven't been doing .82 in it. That wing would be buffetting pretty good. Unless of course you're talking about the Lear 45. Don't know what MMO is on that one.

My personal record flying the Lear 60 is 12,000 feet per minute climb. No joke. It didn't sustain that climb rate for very long, but it did it. The airplane is a rocket! Too bad it doesn't have a bigger wing, wheels and brakes. No telling what it could do.

 

[cyork25]

I fly a 24D and it is a bad dude. I started on it when I had 700 hours and i'll tell you what, that's one heck of a ride. Anyway, i have like 500 hours in it now and it's the most fun you can have with your cloths on. Anyway, the only downside to ours is it has the 306 red line with the original wing. Out of sea level it'll peg the left side VSI, which is at 10,000 fpm. I just remember my first takeoff, talk about blowing an altitude.

P.S. ours only has 4000 hrs on it. It's still pretty fresh

 

[wolfpackpilot]

GulfstreamSDL,

I know that plane! I took off behind you guys last fall out in Vegas. Nice paint!

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I started on it when I had 700 hours

Your gonna be sorry you shared that information on this board....

 

[GulfstreamSDL]

GulfstreamSDL,

I know that plane! I took off behind you guys last fall out in Vegas. Nice paint!

I wish I flew that plane...
however, I dont fly anything close to it just yet...see the a/c I've flown.

Thank Nike for that paint job they call "orange orca."

 

[G4G5]

So I'm out on the ramp today when I see a FlexJet Lear 45/40 (maybe another model), taking off and maintaining 45+ degree (no exageration) climb angle, and maintain it to probably 6000 ft, before turning out.

This thing was hanging with some of the F-18's and T-38's I've seen out of here. Just what is the max climb rate on a lightly loaded lear 45/40?

He was trying to keep up with the G5 that departed ahead of him. Sounds like he couldn't keep up.

 

[SCT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyork25
I started on it when I had 700 hours


Your gonna be sorry you shared that information on this board....


I was thinking the same thing.....

 

[cyork25]

Don't worry, I didn't work for beans or know the owner or anything like that. I did some freelance right seat riding in our old king air and the boss liked me, I feel like i got my job by earning it, and not by cuting out any high time guys by working for substandard wages. I guess it doesn't matter what your time is if the owner likes you. Anyway, I think that it is great to get my teeth cut on the 24, what a great airplane and I feel very fortunate to have had this opportunity.

 

[SCT]

Cy45,
Don't worry about it. I'm sure you were the most qualified for the job at the time. Best of luck in your career.

 

[vv100]

LR 25B w\Dee Howard Mark II Wing
Out of HOU one night empty
10K fpm through 30,000 holding 250 kts

But the 24D was more all around fun

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I guess it doesn't matter what your time is if the owner likes you.

You are correct about that!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I saw something like this at the GFK AFB. It was a KC-135R. The R models have the high-bypass CFM-56 engines, like on the newer -737s and the small Airbuses.

On the KC-135R, if you were light weight, you could take off with a GTOW of only about 115K (MGTOW was about 340K). You had about 90K lbs. of thrust with the CFM-56s.

This guy was doing an airshow at GFK. He was very light, and flew a high-speed pass down low. At midfield, he pulled it up into about a 75 degree pitch angle. He held that angle until he leveled off at 15,000'! Psycho!

Cliff
ABY

 

[ColKurtz]

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An F-14 did the vertical climb thru a low overcast followed by a vertical descent into the terrain some years back - I think it was in Tennessee.



No LrJet can climb anything like any of the F-teen series......I don't care how lightly you are loaded. ( must've just been Mil-pwr departures )




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It was BNA, the kid was showing his parents a max performance takeoff. Seems like I remember 800 overcast. Anyway, his family watched the entire event unfold. Took his WSO with him, sad, very sad. There are reasons for rules. Don't be the guy who gets a rule written for himself.

 

[erj-145mech]

Of course, I've done 7500 fpm in a WSCoD with only 2 people in the back.

We were doing a repo flight in a 145ER from TYS to JAX about 0200 one morning, and on departure, ATL center gave us an unrestricted climb to FL330. The VSI's went all dashes, and the mode "C" couldn't keep up with the climb rate. Two pilots, three mechs, about 200 lbs of tools, and 8000 lbs of gas.

 

[kilroy]

I have made it to FL400 in less than 10 minutes in the 60. If you do the math, thats more than 4000 fpm average. We weren't MGTOW but we weren't all that light either. That airplane is really something else.

All this talk about the 60 is getting me excited we are getting a 60 next month going to school for it in Feb sounds like a hell of an airplane

 

[anchorman]

You'll love the 60. Three clicks and let her go!