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[get2flyin]

Agree with much of what you say here, but....

The misapplication of the term SCAB waters down the real meaning of the word. There are pilots who have scabbed at a lot of airlines (some which might hit close to home for ya), but Crimi isn't one of them.

As for whether Crimi is a bad choice, I disagree, but I will say that he's made some bad choices. Doesn't mean he can't do this particular job well though (and even, perhaps, better than your favorite candidate, even in protecting your interests....believe it or not, which I'm sure you won't.)

Whether or not you think Crimi deserves some sort of label due to his past choices has really become a matter of personal interpretation. I can avoid the labels. They aren't necessary in this discussion so let's let it drop. Perhaps he didn't cross a picket line, but he went to work for an airline that was created to bust a union. To bust HIS OWN union. He may use the excuse that he disregarded explicit instructions provided by his union for the purpose of obtaining valuable training in a CRJ...maybe he even did it for the type rating. But I'll call BS on this because let's be serious, even if you have a type rating, if you don't have at least 100 hours in the aircraft, it's worth nothing. NOTHING!!! Maybe the guy got a lot of flak and chose to bail, maybe he busted out, or maybe it was all part of his "big plan". What ever the reason, the man has a foul stink on him now that will (and rightfully so) follow him for the rest of his career. He's no longer a viable union leader in ANY capacity. The West side may have a guy or two who deserved a "label", but they aren't running for leadership positions, are they?

I know you guys don't care about this union, but it could be so much better than ALPA if we could find a way to get along. (FENCE)

While the union was created to steal MY job and transfer it to an unemployed East pilot, thanks to a number of legal challenges USAPA has been forced to represent ALL of its members. Under those guidelines, I agree the possibility exists that positive things could develop. Your fence idea, however, nullifies that possibility entirely. It basically sidesteps all forward progress to date and allows USAPA to continue focus on the East pilots. That option isn't, nor will EVER be, on the table.

 

[Ocity]

Agree with much of what you say here, but....

but it could be so much better than ALPA if we could find a way to get along. (FENCE)

Never. You had your shot and when that didn't work you guys went to despicable depths to steal what you couldn't attain by any other valid process.

Sorry, easties can shove that fence straight up their asses.

 

[St. Nic]

Crimi is not a scab! Leave it alone. East pilots created USAPA to restore honor and integrity to the pilot union- something lacking with ALPA. Remember where Prater came from!

 

[PHXFLYR]

Crimi is not a scab! Leave it alone. East pilots created USAPA to restore honor and integrity to the pilot union-

Restore "honor and integrity??? USAPA ???? YGTBSM

something lacking with ALPA.

And USAPA is a paragon of virtue how again ??? I can't seem to find that part in the travel brochure you guys handed out the last time the circus passed thru PHX


Remember where Prater came from!

We remember. Continental..... where he honored the picket line unlike your high profile USAPA spokesman

PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

Never. You had your shot and when that didn't work you guys went to despicable depths to steal what you couldn't attain by any other valid process.

Sorry, easties can shove that fence straight up their asses.

Very well said.

:beer:

PHXFLYR

 

[Crzipilot]

Hopefully you don't have to eat those words.....

 

[Raoul Duke]

Do the east guys really think that they can convince the west group to agree to fences? I admire those guys for thier creativity in vision. They could convince white trash sitting around a trailer park that it is the next Beverley Hills. Amazing!!! The list is set in stone. The only way to move on is for them to accept it (even if they don't like it)

 

[Crzipilot]

I guess, it remains to be seen...

 

[Ocity]

Crimi is not a scab! Leave it alone. East pilots created USAPA to restore honor and integrity to the pilot union- something lacking with ALPA. Remember where Prater came from!

Nobody is buying that Bull ********************. Get over it.

 

[TWA Dude]

I know you guys don't care about this union, but it could be so much better than ALPA if we could find a way to get along. (FENCE)

The fact that every couple of weeks some Eastie busts out with a comment like this proves how clueless they are. Even if the West wanted to negotiate some compromise there is nobody with whom to negotiate -- USAPA now represents both the West and East. USAPA tried to impose a new East-centric seniority list and the result was a slam-dunk DFR win. You'd think they'd take the hint.

If the Easties really want to get along (which we all know they don't) they'd drop the Cactus 18 suit and the Addingtion appeal and start acting like a union that represents all its pilots. Until then idiotic "let's get along" posts on message boards are meaningless.