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pookie said:
Just a quick question...

When United was hiring in 2001, what were the required times? Did you need PIC jet or turbine?

The published mins were ATP mins. If you were in intern, son/daughter, or UAL employee, you generally had the opportunity to interview as soon as you met the minimum requirements. I don't know the success rate of those applicants vs. those with more industry experience.

Competitive mins off the street typically required 1000+ PIC turbine.

W8N
 
pookie said:
Just a quick question...

When United was hiring in 2001, what were the required times? Did you need PIC jet or turbine?

White male.

Zero PIC turbine.

Hired in 2000.

GP
 
Glad your back Andy...you are a helpful part of this board. I get allot of information about United from your posts...I hope United starts hiring again soon.

UAL Bag smasher 98-04
 
thaks for the info 48wnfual and guppie...

i am just a long hopeful trying to catch my dreams of working at ual.
 
Looks like Andy got banned again. I'm not going to read every post he's done lately, so does anyone know what he did??
 
Looks like Andy got banned again. I'm not going to read every post he's done lately, so does anyone know what he did??

I sent a PM asking that a post containing personal information be pulled. Got me banned again. Go figure?

Anyone starting a pool as to when I get banned again? :laugh:
 
At least 300 next year?

Just heard on the flight ops hotline the plan was to recall at least 300 next year and have an additional class of 20 in Dec. Anybody know what the junior recall number is?
 
Just heard on the flight ops hotline the plan was to recall at least 300 next year and have an additional class of 20 in Dec. Anybody know what the junior recall number is?

From Skynetlite:

Junior Pilot to Receive Recall Offer: Seniority # :8202, Hire Date: 08/13/2000 Pilots Exercising Bypass Rights: 693

Junior man on the seniority list: 8655, DOH 8/6/01
 
Current junior number to be recalled is 8202 with a hire date 8-13-2000.

There will be 39 in the class starting this week (last week of September.) This class was originally listed as having only 30 recalls.

The additional class of 20 just posted, starts December 4.

If you hear what domiciles they are getting please let us know.

Cheers.
 
when do you guys think they will start needing some fresh blood again...can't wait!

I'll second what yuppyguppy said. I'd expect United to start accepting apps in spring '07. It's a crap shoot as to how long it'll take to get through the seniority list on the second pass - it could happen lightning fast (you'd be looking at new classes late 07) or it could happen slow (newhires starting late 08).

The age 60 rule really makes this a crap shoot. If it gets passed, all bets are off on when United even finishes with recalls.
 
Alright, dumb question...Any chance the merger rumors are geared towards making the fence sitters show their cards early? I know a senoir FA who was treated not so nice upon return from voluntary furlough. Her take was the company was looking to run off the more senior employees. Perhaps a similar effort on the pilots' side?
 
Alright, dumb question...Any chance the merger rumors are geared towards making the fence sitters show their cards early? I know a senoir FA who was treated not so nice upon return from voluntary furlough. Her take was the company was looking to run off the more senior employees. Perhaps a similar effort on the pilots' side?

I don't think that I'd link merger rumors with bypassers; the bypassers will likely sit it out until the last possible moment.
I elected to bypass to save my mil leave clock from starting to tick. I plan on taking the full 6 years mil leave, as permitted by UAL's contract (assuming that they don't dork it up in C2009). The latest stat that I saw was that 44% of the pilots have taken a bypass.
At this time, management is expecting to burn through the bottom of the recall list by the end of Feb - they're on track to do that. That will leave approx 1000 on bypass that they'll need to give one last chance to before hiring off the street. From the way that I'm reading the tea leaves, management is expecting most of those 1000 or so to never return. Personally, I only expect about 1/3 of those people to return; most are just hedging their bets in case FedEx/UPS/Southwest/JetBlue/nonflyingjob takes a dive and then they can use their United safety net.

Even if a merger were to be announced tomorrow, it wouldn't matter. It will take quite a while to integrate two companies. I would expect the furlough list to be depleted before any integration occurred.

The one wild card here is a change to the age 60 rule. Sen Stevens was able to get S 65 attached to HR 5576 (an appropriations bill). If HR 5576 passes with the S 65 amendment in place, it will be up to the House subcommittee to accept or reject it while reconciling the two versions of HR 5576. The S 65 amendment can be removed from HR 5576 before it is voted on in the Senate, but it requires a single Senator to make a point of order. Problem is, S 65 is buried deep within HR 5576 so that most Senate staffers are unaware of this development.
 
Andy

Any idea if the sons/daughters/employees list is still around. I contacted a UAL pilot involved with the ALPA mentorship program several years ago and was added to the list. I would hope my name is still on it. I would like to at least give UAL a crack if they ever start hiring again.

Thanks,

FISH
 
Hi All! I was in the Aug. 20, 2000 class and received a call yesterday for a Dec. 4th class. I was told it was an unofficial call and that I would be getting an official call closer to the date, but that they were trying to get an idea of who would be bypassing and who would be accepting. I am currently happy at NetJets and told them I would be bypassing.

Does anyone know if there's a quick rundown of the new pay, benefits somewhere. I've been out of the loop for awhile.

Best to everyone.
 
Pay rates

The rates in the 2003 CBA were ammended in a loa just prior to bankruptcy exit. I believe it is LOA 05-01 and can be found on the mec website under bankruptcy. Hope this helps
 
Andy

Any idea if the sons/daughters/employees list is still around. I contacted a UAL pilot involved with the ALPA mentorship program several years ago and was added to the list. I would hope my name is still on it. I would like to at least give UAL a crack if they ever start hiring again.

Thanks,

FISH

Fish, you might want to try to contact Roger Vesely. He was in charge of hiring before 9/11. He's still in Denver.
I haven't heard anything about United soliciting applications yet; I wouldn't expect to hear anything until next spring.
But it wouldn't hurt for you to contact the hiring department before they get spooled up.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems that the pay rates in the CBA dated 2003 is different than what APC.com is posting.

Which one is correct? Was there an ammendment that I missed that lowered the rates in the '03 CBA?

Looking to return in '07.

GP

APC's got the correct rates; I know that Paul Hamrick's pretty heavily involved with the website.
Yeah, the pay got lowered after C2003; it's so bad that I haven't chased it down - ORDFO's likely correct, but I shudder to even look at it.
 
Where can one find the junior man on seat/fleet/domicile at UAL? I saw it years ago, but can't remember where. Skynet? ALPA?
 
Where can one find the junior man on seat/fleet/domicile at UAL? I saw it years ago, but can't remember where. Skynet? ALPA?

It used to be on pilotsunited.com, but the website hasn't been maintained. The other place that I've seen it is on unimatic. It's not on skynetlite and I don't think that it's on alpa.org. You may want to go to the UAL pilot forum (new or old) and ask for that info; I'm sure that someone will know and post it.
 

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