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[UAL'01]

It is one of the hardest decisions of my life, but I think I will have to turn United down. I never imagined I would make this choice, however I just cannot make it work with the current payscale and possible merger threat. I wish you all the best and will always consider myself one of the priviledged few that got to work for United Airlines. Who knows, maybe I will reapply in the future.... . Good Luck!

 

[UALX727]

Same here, unless something big (negative) happens with my current employer, I won't go back either. Who would have thought....

 

[Andy]

Just curious, which airlines do you guys work for that you're not returning, what's your seniority there, and what would your seniority be at United?

I figure that anyone flying for FedEx, UPS, Southwest, or CAL isn't even debating not returning.

My guess is that around 1500 of the 2172 will return to UAL.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Just curious, which airlines do you guys work for that you're not returning, what's your seniority there, and what would your seniority be at United?

I figure that anyone flying for FedEx, UPS, Southwest, or CAL isn't even debating not returning.

My guess is that around 1500 of the 2172 will return to UAL.

An east coast startup that will be 7 years old in February. Approx 50th percentile.

Approx 950 from bottom at UAL.

Leaning heavily towards going back to UAL for better pay, benefits, retirement and quality of life (for me, at least).

Cheers!

GP

 

[Andy]

An east coast startup that will be 7 years old in February. Approx 50th percentile.
Approx 950 from bottom at UAL.
Leaning heavily towards going back to UAL for better pay, benefits, retirement and quality of life (for me, at least).
Cheers!
GP

Funny how things change over time. I wouldn't have thought many would return from that company, but the landscape has definitely changed. After seeing their year over year increase in aircraft lease costs, I'd say that you're making the right decision.

 

[UALX727]

AirTran 50th percentile, 650 from bottom of UAL list. Just don't want to go thru another layoff. I will commute either way with either AirTran or UAL. Looks like a very long upgrade at UAL for me. I think my best bet is to stay put for now, unless something changes. Any other guys out there in the same boat?

 

[Andy]

AirTran 50th percentile, 650 from bottom of UAL list. Just don't want to go thru another layoff. I will commute either way with either AirTran or UAL. Looks like a very long upgrade at UAL for me. I think my best bet is to stay put for now, unless something changes. Any other guys out there in the same boat?

UALX727, my guess has been that ~70% of furloughees will return. 30% of 2172 = 652. To date, 25 resignations, 2 deaths, 2 age 60 retirements. Leaves ~625 out of ~850 bypassers who will not return.
You're definitely not alone in your decision.
I don't expect more than a very few returns from FedEx, UPS, and Southwest. Probably very few will return from CAL. I had originally expected low return percentage from JBLU, but I think that we'll now see a decent percentage return from there. I don't expect to see many who have been able to ride up the seniority list at AirTran such as yourself to return.

 

[Dano]

Jetblue; 50% in seniority, 90 Ca (good seniority (bad pay), 320 has gone junior to me).

United; 7600-ish in seniority. Other things I'm considering; have you looked at lowcost schedules? You have to go way up the line holder list (way way up) to find better than 12 days off. Bob Neil said some are able to get the 767 off recall BUT reserve for ever. Of course age 60/65, mergers???

On the other hand 16% into the PDAP, Long call going system wide by summer, LOL much better, massive retirements (starting in 10 years)

I thought that this decision would be quite easy but it is proving to be very difficult for me. I think I will continue to ride the fence until forced to decide.

 

[Gordo]

Here's the latest vacancy bids posted on skynet. This may give you some idea of what the furloughees passed on for the Feb class. My guess is there'll be a lot of DCA 767s given to people on ML or LOA.

Cheers.


PROPOSED BIDDING
Posted:12/20/2006
Closed:12/30/2006
EFF DATE:6/1/2007
TRAINING DATES:MAR, APR, MAY
TOTAL VACANCIES
CAPTAIN
400 CAP ORD 12
TTL 12
FIRST OFFICER
400 F/O ORD 6
400 F/O SFO 6
777 F/O DCA 15
767 F/O DCA 10
TTL 37
TOTAL CAP VACANCIES:12
TOTAL F/O VACANCIES:37
TOTAL VACANCIES:49

 

[hyflyt560]

Here's the latest vacancy bids posted on skynet. This may give you some idea of what the furloughees passed on for the Feb class. My guess is there'll be a lot of DCA 767s given to people on ML or LOA.

Unfortunately, those of us on mil leave have been given an equipment assignment and although we haven't started training, we're in a 3 year freeze...barring those that were the first furloughees and may not have a freeze.