Landing in a Tropical Storm

[ILStoMinimums]

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. Many people have landed in more wind than that.

No kidding. You hear the guys out in the bush landing with 50 kts across. I've never seen it done, but can imagine what it would be like. The Twotter is definately a good plane for that. I've seen about 25 max so far.

Dirk,

What where you doing at FL190 in a Caravan?

 

[jaybird]

Last summer during huricane/tropical storm Isabel I was going from AGC-CMH I remember I was in a BE-58 doing 200kts over the ground. No big deal right, but I was in a 1000fpm climb.

I also remember the BWI news reporting the airport closed while one of our (AirNet) props was landing in the background. I didn't see it, I just heard about it.

 

[T-Gates]

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. Many people have landed in more wind than that.

He was joking...lighten up

 

[Texan Driver]

That pretty much sums it up. ON the other hand I set a speed record in the Twotter on the descent. Hit 206 kts. The Captain I was flying with said hes seen 250 before.

That is always cool when you actually go somewhat fast in a slow airplane.
A week or so ago I saw 205 over the ground in the Caravan in cruise at 6000. I was stoked until I started thinking about how long it was going to take me to get back!

 

[av8tor4239]

cant believe i started a thread that actually went to two pages.. LOL

 

[ILStoMinimums]

That is always cool when you actually go somewhat fast in a slow airplane.
A week or so ago I saw 205 over the ground in the Caravan in cruise at 6000. I was stoked until I started thinking about how long it was going to take me to get back!

Are still flying the DHC-6? Who for?

 

[Texan Driver]

Are still flying the DHC-6? Who for?

Nope..not flying one anymore. Flying a Van these days. I haven't touched the controls of a Twotter for a few years. I was flying one for a skydiving outfit. I miss the three on a tree tiller bar.
I'd like to do what you are doing with it tho...you know, what it was designed for.
Plus, anything with the throttles overhead is just cool.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

Nope..not flying one anymore. Flying a Van these days. I haven't touched the controls of a Twotter for a few years. I was flying one for a skydiving outfit. I miss the three on a tree tiller bar.
I'd like to do what you are doing with it tho...you know, what it was designed for.
Plus, anything with the throttles overhead is just cool.

Yup,

The Twotter is a great plane!

 

[FlyChicaga]

cant believe i started a thread that actually went to two pages.. LOL

Try starting one that goes 13 pages and 375 replies later! I have no idea what's going on in that Island Air thread anymore.

 

[Axel]

Long time ago I saw a twotter hover over the runway.

 

[MECH]

Not long ago I had to go around because a Twotter couldn't go faster then 130 to the marker.

 

[Captain X]

Surprisingly there were not. Winds were reported at the surface as 060@18G28. We were apparently the first aircraft to give a report.

Please don't think I'm armchair quarterbacking -- I just think a dialogue on the subject in interesting

So did you guys get any windshear warnings on the way down?

We get both "increasing perf." and "decreasing perf." warnings in the Taco Rocket. For us, any windshear caution or warning mandates a go-around inside the FAF.

Did you guys actually report "windshear?"

If so, did other a/c continue to approach and land after you guys (as far as you could tell)?

The reason I ask is b/c we have company policy that dictates not launching or approaching for a certain period of time if windshear is reported by either ATIS or another a/c (I assume they mean and a/c warning or caution).

I'm not saying you guys did any of the following but I have seen so-called "professional pilots" do such things.

I have seen pilots from our carriers ignore the windshear policy on more than one occasion. I just don't see any reason to justify taking the risk. I've seen way too many guys let ATC fly their airplane for them instead of the other way around -- it surprises me how many pilots have a hard time saying "no" to controllers.

How quickly some pilots forget the lessons of DAL191 in DFW and AAL1420 in LIT.

 

[chperplt]

So did you guys get any windshear warnings on the way down?

No we did not.

We reported the loss of airspeed and the winds at altitude. What others did after we left the freq, I don't know. LLWS warnings were reporting on the ATIS when we departed an hour + later.

I am very familiar with the DAL and AA accidents. I am also very familiar with my company policy of windshear. There was plenty of dialogue going on during the entire approach. The wind shear recovery procedure was discussed as well as what we would do if we got a WS caution or warning at different points along the approach.

At no time was safety compromised, nor will it ever be compromised to get an airplane on the ground.

 

[OhDannyBoy]

Yup,

The Twotter is a great plane!

I've seen the -6 do some amazing things down in the Caribbean. Looked like fun. Glad to finally know what you guys are doing with your hands up there.

 

[Captain X]

I am very familiar with the DAL and AA accidents. I am also very familiar with my company policy of windshear. There was plenty of dialogue going on during the entire approach. The wind shear recovery procedure was discussed as well as what we would do if we got a WS caution or warning at different points along the approach.

At no time was safety compromised, nor will it ever be compromised to get an airplane on the ground.

Please understand that my reference to DAL and AAL was not in response to your decisions on the flight you mention, but rather a general comment to observations I have made.

I was not implying, nor do I think, that you and your fellow crew compromised safety.

I was just interested in your view on the day.