L39 Albatros Crashes and Burns in AK Trailer Park, Pilot Ejected...

[Draginass]

Yeah. Michael Chowdry of Atlas died in an L-39 crash.

Yes, in the Denver area. Also killed was the aviation editor of the Wall Street Journal, IIRC.

It's unfortunate that some people with a lot of money buy these airplanes, which are far, far beyond their skill and experience level.

The "partially deployed parachute" was probably the ejection seat drogue chute that slows the seat for man-seat separation. If the pilot was still strapped in the seat on the ground, the man-seat separator probably either failed or, more likely, he was out of the ejection envelope and the seat didn't have time to function correctly.

 

[A Squared]

THis is the Michael Chowdry crash:


http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20010202X00390&key=1



This is the Louisiana crash:


http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20010220X00467&key=1

 

[AAslag]

http://www.sitnews.us/0106news/012606/012606_crash_ketchikan.html

 

[AAslag]

Sorry,

Link not working now.

It was a repo flight. The pilot (former TWA) also had a full time job with US Customs. Or whatever it's called now.

Former Marine FA-18 Pilot.

Left behind a wife and two daughters.

Semper Fi

 

[Ill Mitch]

I think you may be thinking of a different crash. There was some rich guy who was a Northern lights (demo team that used to fly l-39's) wannabe. He had his plane painted to match the Northern lights team planes. He crashed doing inverted manuvers at low altitude with a young female passenger. Seems like that was in Louisianna

He actually owned the Northern Lights, but was not a pilot for them. That's why one of the coolest airshow acts to hit the circuit is no more.

 

[FN FAL]

I think you may be thinking of a different crash. There was some rich guy who was a Northern lights (demo team that used to fly l-39's) wannabe. He had his plane painted to match the Northern lights team planes. He crashed doing inverted manuvers at low altitude with a young female passenger. Seems like that was in Louisianna

Yea, that's the one.

 

[GIVDrvr]

The L39 has following anti-icing capabilities:


On the airframe side: Engine Air Intakes and Windshield
On the engine: Compressor nose and Guide Van Blades of the 1st stage, plus p-1 sensors

 

[LR25]

THis is the Michael Chowdry crash:


"Aircraft records also indicate that the pilot had 38.6 hours of flight experience in the airplane in approximately 3 years, and 6.6 hours of experience during the last 18 months. The night before the accident, the pilot had returned from a trip around the world in his Boeing Business Jet, with multiple business stops along the way. Analysis of the rear canopy's transparency indicated that it was embrittled."


What is it with these guys who don't stay current.

What other result would someone expect from this kind of attitude toward aviation, no pun intended.

 

[urflyingme?!]

Don't train, don't maintain.

My condolences to the family of the young girl....

 

[FN FAL]

http://www.sitnews.us/0106news/012606/012606_crash_ketchikan.html

Here's an interesting article of the Ketchikan crash, apparently there was a "circling" manuver being done with 1/2 mile vis and 500 foot ceiling.

The article has some data on the pilot as well as some eyewitness accounts and photos.

I'm not familiar with Alaska flying or ketchikan airport, so I'm just forwarding the article for the thread, not speculating.

 

[LJDRVR]

This brings up a question I've always had... are private high-performance ex-military jets normally maintained with a functional ejection system? The reason this intrigues me is that ejection/egress is a highly specialized and labor-intensive form of maintenance. You are dealing with rockets, parachutes, and explosive belts and seat kickers. Probably requires a dangerous or hazardous materials license just to maintain the spares for the seat in your hangar.

As mentioned by a previous poster, there is one company and several individuals that will perform egress maintenance. The most difficult aspect is obtaining the rocket cartridges. Sourcing can be difficult and the BATF folks get involved with the paperwork. Interestingly enough, once the devices are installed in the seat, the ATF people could care less. They are very concerned about storage before that point.

It amazes me that the folks that purchase these aircraft don't take them seriouslly. Most jet warbirds are maintained without live seats, which simply astounds me. If it can't be deadsticked into a field without killing you, spend the money and have the seats.

R.I.P. for the pilot. Sad stuff.

 

[flyguybri]

Here's more info

http://www.ktuu.com/cms/anmviewer.asp?a=3363&z=1

 

[FN FAL]

Here's more info

http://www.ktuu.com/cms/anmviewer.asp?a=3363&z=1

USA is Kerlin's outfit? I thought it sounded familiar.

I met Kerlin and his wife several times very briefly at the World Freefall Convention in UIN and he seemed like a straight shooter and a real nice guy. Although there is the tragedy of the pilot's death, I would like to think that the other operator is just blowing smoke up the media's ass after some some sour grapes with Kirlin.

 

[A Squared]

Here's an interesting article of the Ketchikan crash, apparently there was a "circling" manuver being done with 1/2 mile vis and 500 foot ceiling.

The article has some data on the pilot as well as some eyewitness accounts and photos.

I'm not familiar with Alaska flying or ketchikan airport, so I'm just forwarding the article for the thread, not speculating.

Well, the ILS at Ketchikan has a 1000 ft (straight in) DA for a sea level airport. that in itself should tell you something Circiling minimums *start* at 2500 and go up

 

[FN FAL]

Well, the ILS at Ketchikan has a 1000 ft (straight in) DA for a sea level airport. that in itself should tell you something Circiling minimums *start* at 2500 and go up

Oh my...that's one reason why I tend to reserve judgement on AK flying or crashes.

 

[FN FAL]

Oh my...that's one reason why I tend to reserve judgement on AK flying or crashes.

Sorry if that sounds lame or phoney, but it's true...I know nothing about AK flying other than my perception that it's the opposite of flying in Iowa.

 

[mzaharis]

If anyone's curious, here's the website for Kirlin's operation (the article mentions that his business is also known as "Red Air", and he's listed on this site):

http://www.redair.net/
http://www.redair.net/team.html?pos=2

 

[Ill Mitch]

If anyone's curious, here's the website for Kirlin's operation (the article mentions that his business is also known as "Red Air", and he's listed on this site):

http://www.redair.net/
http://www.redair.net/team.html?pos=2

How about the Air USA site, who is the company that sold the airplanes. Red Air, tho owned by Kirlin, is a different company.

http://www.air-usa.com/

 

[FN FAL]

How about the Air USA site, who is the company that sold the airplanes. Red Air, tho owned by Kirlin, is a different company.

http://www.air-usa.com/

I don't have time to look at the two sites, is there two companies owned by Kirlin? If so, that's probably not unusual in business, especially high-risk aviation based businesses. It could even be because of regulatory or tax reasons.

 

[mzaharis]

How about the Air USA site, who is the company that sold the airplanes. Red Air, tho owned by Kirlin, is a different company.

http://www.air-usa.com/

Missed that one. Thanks.