jetblue reports small profit, loss for year

[satpak77]

Keep buying those stocks on the way up there Charles Schwab.

Now let me hear you loud and clear...........How much is FRNT up today?

while you are loudmouthing to the forum, post your trade execution price and I will tell you how much you are "up"

also let us know your risk control strategy (do you have one?) and you have yet to tell me your catalyst why it will go up 20%? Or are you just rolling the dice on this?

what is your stop loss price? why is it there?

since you feel like educating the entire forum with your stock tips and econo-babble, please use your supreme trading knowledge and answer my questions

until then, I leave you to fight the trend of the market and roll the dice on stock plays....that my friend is suicidal, even if you were "look at me, I was right, look at me" by buying FRNT today.

thanks for the Charles Schwab comment, lets just say my equities and commodities brokerage balances since year 2000 (yes, the start of the bear, and when I started shorting) would make momma mighty proud

'nuff said on that

 

[buttercup]

while you are loudmouthing to the forum, post your trade execution price and I will tell you how much you are "up"

also let us know your risk control strategy (do you have one?) and you have yet to tell me your catalyst why it will go up 20%? Or are you just rolling the dice on this?

until then, I leave you to fight the trend of the market and roll the dice on stock plays....that my friend is suicidal, even if you were "look at me, I was right, look at me" by buying FRNT today.

thanks for the Peter Lynch comment, lets just say my Ameritrade balance since year 2000 (yes, the start of the bear, and when I started shorting) would make momma mighty proud

'nuff said on that

Sat Cramer makes shorting so easy doesnt he? I only have to do my legwork on my long positions now.. Stockfetcher takes care of that in 5 minutes per night!! Lowecur, I hope your JBLU trade makes you money. That pig is ovErpriced still and more importantly, sEntimEnt on it right now is atrocious.. However, if oil keeps coming down you may be alright with that trade.. I wish you well youve got bigger cajones than me on that one!!

 

[satpak77]

Sat Cramer makes shorting so easy doesnt he? I only have to do my legwork on my long positions now.. Stockfetcher takes care of that in 5 minutes per night!! Lowecur, I hope your JBLU trade makes you money. That pig is ovErpriced still and more importantly, sEntimEnt on it right now is atrocious.. However, if oil keeps coming down you may be alright with that trade.. I wish you well youve got bigger cajones than me on that one!!

guys the overall market is generally up today. Subsequently, JBLU and FRNT got uplifted by the thermals of the overall market. The airline sector responded well due to lower oil prices, which broke sub $60 a barrell.

this is not a magical JBLU or FRNT thing, all the airline stocks rallied today

AND it has NOTHING to do with LUV may or may not succeed in Denver

and yes, shorting Cramer can make you money!

later

 

[G4G5]

To all those who reply to G4G5:

Poison Ivy goes away much quicker if you don't scratch it.

He clearly does not think through both the ideaology from others and his own. He wants JB to be perceived as BS so he can feel better about his demise.

If nothing else, remember that this is the man that blames his grammar on a "foreign keyboard", however, for the life of me I do not understand how that yeilds: "their" instead of "there" or "salery" instead of "salary" or "guranteed" instead of "guaranteed" or "effects" instead of "affects" or perhaps " ; " instead of " : "....and on and on.

We all make tie-pos from time to time but he simply does not even understand basic English. Tell me again why I should listen to his posts?

Feel better now? Because I am here for you brother. Oh by the way, do you see any typos in this sentence:
"We all make tie-pos from time to time but he simply does not even understand basic English"

Or this one?

"He clearly does not think through both the ideaology from others and his own. He wants JB to be perceived as BS so he can feel better about his demise."

I am not an English major, never claimed to be, my mistakes could be from using a keyboard in a foreign country. Or they could be made because I am up at 3 am typing with one eye open while I feed a three month old. I am not trying to hide them and when someone corrects me I typically say thanks, "thanks"

But if you are going to come on here and rip me for spelling have the brains to check your own first. What do they say about those who live in glass houses? Man you just burned yourself, big time. What's your excuse?

 

[bluejuice787]

G4G5 clearly does not get sarcasm either.

I wonder if he uses the same excuses when he is flying..."sorry bout that landing folks but uh I was burping my baby on his crazy keyboard with a beer"...

 

[G4G5]

Dude you are denser then I thought, you spelled ideology and typo wrong, and then ripped me for spelling.

How is that sarcasm?

It's pretty clear to everyone that you just plain screwed up.

 

[Giggity]

Wow G4..

You indeed have a real hard one for JetBlue...


I think everyone is tired of your incessant JetBlue whining.
Even General Lee is moving on to more important topics.

I am beginning to think that JetBlue's house fell on his sister.

 

[bluejuice787]

I am beginning to think that JetBlue's house fell on his sister.

Actually that was my LUMBER!

 

[lowecur]

while you are loudmouthing to the forum, post your trade execution price and I will tell you how much you are "up" Thanks, but I can do the math.

also let us know your risk control strategy (do you have one?) No! and you have yet to tell me your catalyst why it will go up 20%? Just a wild guess! Or are you just rolling the dice on this?

what is your stop loss price? What's that? why is it there?

since you feel like educating the entire forum with your stock tips and econo-babble, please use your supreme trading knowledge and answer my questions, NO!

until then, I leave you to fight the trend of the market and roll the dice on stock plays....that my friend is suicidal, even if you were "look at me, I was right, look at me" by buying FRNT today. Thank you!

thanks for the Charles Schwab comment Hey, he is debonair, lets just say my equities and commodities brokerage balances since year 2000 (yes, the start of the bear, and when I started shorting) would make momma mighty proud

'nuff said on that

I didn't know you momma was a trader. I'll bet she would like that FRNT price in two weeks.

 

[lowecur]

Lowecur, I hope your JBLU trade makes you money. I haven't bought JBLU yet. I will only do that if it trades in the $6-8 range. That will only happen if the 4th Q numbers are in line with the S&P forecast between a $39-55M loss. If oil keeps going down those numbers will be drastically reduced. That pig is ovErpriced I agree at this point still and more importantly, sEntimEnt on it right now is atrocious.. However, if oil keeps coming down you may be alright with that trade.. I wish you well youve got bigger cajones than me on that one!!

......
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[whymeworry?]

Why in the hell would anyone buy an airline stock? Now, why would an airline pilot buy an airline stock? Now, to take this even further, why would an airline pilot buy stock in his airline?

Airline stocks are consistantly a under-performers. With 8,000 other stocks to choose from in the U.S. market alone, the decision to buy an airline stock shows poor judgement in fiscal prudence. That said, we all work in an incredibly volitile industry. It's bad enough our main source if income depends on the viability of our career and our airline. Why then would one subject their portfolio to this risk? Talk about all your eggs in one basket.

The only airline stocks I have owned are the shares that have been granted to me in a IPO or spinoff. I like to see my money work for me so I try to find investments that make a little more sense than airlines.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Ever heard of Warren Buffett?

It's called "Value Investing". Why in God's name would you buy a stock AFTER it's already appreciated? Oh that right, if it's already gone up, there's no way it can go down. Try buying stocks in good companies after they're on sale.

BTW, your Enron example holds no water. Remember value investing stipulates you only buy stock in GOOD companies. I'd highly recommend you read The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham. Another must-read is Security Analysis by Graham and David Dodd.

Bob

Why in God's name would you BUY a stock that is down. You should be shorting selling this dog

I guess you bought Enron also when it went from $80 to $40 and became a "fifty percent off sale, lets fill the dumptruck with more"

Enron later went from $40 to zero months later

 

[AutoBus]

jetblue makes small profit, expects loss 4th quarter and full year loss.



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Newspaper headlines

"Jetblue see's Red"

"Jetblue sings the blues"

any others...

 

[klhoard]

Newspaper headlines

"Jetblue see's Red"

"Jetblue sings the blues"

any others...

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"JetBlue goes ALPA". . .
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[Traderd]

It's called "Value Investing". Why in God's name would you buy a stock AFTER it's already appreciated? Oh that right, if it's already gone up, there's no way it can go down. Try buying stocks in good companies after they're on sale.

BTW, your Enron example holds no water. Remember value investing stipulates you only buy stock in GOOD companies. I'd highly recommend you read The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham. Another must-read is Security Analysis by Graham and David Dodd.

Bob

On Friday I had the occasion to buy some stocks that had already appreciated. As I am not a good enough trader to know when these things have "alredy appreciated...depreciated", I have to rely on my own technical signals to tell me if there are more buyers or more sellers. I buy on strength and I sell on weakness. By the end of the day I had a total of 45,000 reasons not to follow your advice.

It was a very slow trading day for me, as I only executed these two trades. My money management rules restrict the amount of capital I can risk once daily/weekly/monthly profit targets/loss limits are met. This month, the oil sector (talk about selling on weakness!!!) has pretty much been letting traders print money so I am well over any profit target and as such severely limit my exposures on subsequent trading days in that month (arbitrary but what the hell, I'm the boss).

But here is the run down of those two trades:

BOT: I went long 2500 shares at $98.90 (0957 - single fill) AFTER the stock had "appreciated" from its open price of $96. I closed the position between 1403-1406(mutiple fills) @ an average of $112.15. Pretax, post commisson gain of approximately $33,000 on about $250K.

CME: I went long 1000 shares at $337.01 (1018-1021 - multiple fills) AFTER the stock had "appreciated" from its low price of $333.10. I closed the position between 1327-1330(mutiple fills) @ an average of $345.26. Pretax, post commisson gain of approximately $12,000 on about $340K.

In both cases I missed the top of their daily appreciation, so there are opportunity losses in these trades. As an aside, I would have expected at least five trades to hit these levels but for whatever reasons the MM and Specialist were kind that day and my stops weren't hit. I normally have a laundry list of losses to offset about 30% of those gains.

Anyway, there are those of us out there who march to the beat of a different drummer as it were. Many people in my circles are rabid short term traders (literally a thousand trades a day) and some are short selling fanatics (wouldn't enter a long position even if it would make them money). As for me, I go with what works for me. I don't have an attention span sufficient to hold a position overnight, much less a year so I pay the penalty in taxes. I don't care if a position moves up or down, I just want it to move.

And I believe you have no idea of the "value" in your investment until the position is closed.

 

[satpak77]

It's called "Value Investing". Why in God's name would you buy a stock AFTER it's already appreciated? Oh that right, if it's already gone up, there's no way it can go down. Try buying stocks in good companies after they're on sale.

BTW, your Enron example holds no water. Remember value investing stipulates you only buy stock in GOOD companies. I'd highly recommend you read The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham. Another must-read is Security Analysis by Graham and David Dodd.

Bob

Enron was #7 on the SP 500 while its stock was going down. Various analysts and "experts" claimed Enron was a "good company" to invest in, even as the stock tanked.

The price is always right.