JetBlue PVC has voted to give away flying!

[Lake Alice]

First name D.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Is that e. Scott on the PVC?

No, Dick.

 

[Lake Alice]

Davids nickname has always been Dick. Or was that William that has that nickname? Either way after what they have done if Jetblue tanks those four will have a much more difficult time finding employment. You don't do what they have done and get away scott free. Pardon the pun.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

So 78 seat Scope. Who is it going to be? Eagle, Republic? Separate seniority list.

 

[Flyby1206]

So 78 seat Scope. Who is it going to be? Eagle, Republic? Separate seniority list.

Is there any feasible way JB could set up another company to do 78seat flying and keep it on the same seniority list? Have some mechanism to transfer between the two? Outsourcing to a 3rd party would suck balls, and you can guarantee once that flying goes away it aint coming back.

 

[Lake Alice]

No.

What those 4 PVC pilots did was allow Jetblue to operate another airline up 78 seats, organically start an airline flying the same aircraft and never merge seniority lists. If Jetblue purchases an airline with a CBA our ineffective PEA's state that seniority list need to be merged. Now you tell me if you have a CBA and I have a PEA which one is the government going to abide by. This is why the ALPA push has become so important. It's difficult to find the proper wording to describe what 4 pilots have done to the entire seniority list.

 

[Smarta$$]

No, Dick.

Sheesh... for a minute there, I thought you wee calling me a dick!

Thanks.

 

[Smarta$$]

Will the membership still get to vote on this?

 

[Pilotbob3]

Blue Bayou...Are you ready to fill out that Interest card now? I'll mail in your Interest Card if you like!

Blue Bayou lurks but avoids the question.

 

[BeachBummer]

Will the membership still get to vote on this?

The theory is that if 50% + 1 votes in favor of the documents they will be put out to the pilots for a PEA modifacation.

If it gets the "NO" vote... I don't know what happens...

 

[AKAAB]

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If it gets the "NO" vote... I don't know what happens...

Neither does Maruster according to the last call-in dog and pony show.

 

[cowboy55]

A few months ago, you guys thought I was management. I turned my card in. I apologize to everyone for being so blind.

 

[Dizel8]

50%+1 of votes cast is how I read, not voting doesn't mean voting no!

 

[Splert]

Neither does Maruster according to the last call-in dog and pony show.

The PVC rejected a previous iteration and the company came back to the table.

The pilot group must reject this permission slip to career and QOL stagnation.

 

[Smarta$$]

The theory is that if 50% + 1 votes in favor of the documents they will be put out to the pilots for a PEA modifacation.

If it gets the "NO" vote... I don't know what happens...

Thank you. I hope the group collectively sends a strong no. Very disappointing.

 

[BeachBummer]

A few months ago, you guys thought I was management. I turned my card in. I apologize to everyone for being so blind.

:beer:Sorry for calling you Jenny!:beer:

I really wish that managment had taken the high road and made this work. We have dedicated pilots and the PVC has tried. Unfortunately every effort of good will on our part seems to have been met with a kick in the dingding.

Asside from the raises in 2009, absolutly nothing has happened.

 

[Dizel8]

The company hasn't tried to make this work for a long time, they are simply just interested in delay, spin and delay.

Sadly, too many keeps thinking collaboration will work out in the end, just give it a bit more time. What some fail to realize, is that it will not work, not now, not at some magical time in the future, but the company is more than willing to string us along for as long as they can.

0.2% but the ELT got their bonuses even though targets were not met, still waiting, waiting and waiting some more for the 1.09%.

No one take the kids at the small table serious, it's time to grow up.

 

[BeachBummer]

It's kind of like....

^^^THIS!^^^

 

[Fins Up]

I really wish that managment had taken the high road and made this work. We have dedicated pilots and the PVC has tried. Unfortunately every effort of good will on our part seems to have been met with a kick in the dingding.

Don't you mean a "kick in the teeth"?

 

[RiddleEagle18]

when is the vote?