One more side note, times in the industry are changing. We are going through that cycle that seems to occur in avaition about once a decade. I know how it feels to be hired at a job that I needed tons of exerience just to get an interview with, and then see the hiring mins go south 6 months later. There is this feeling of a loss of pride associated with our position as the barriers to entry seem to vanish. I don't mind low time pilots who are eager to learn and personify the professionalism we associate with our career field. I don't like people who don't appreciate what a big deal it is to fly right seat in a jet because they had to do no work to achieve that position. Years ago TWA was hiring guys with dirt bottom minimums and through excellent training and guidance they managed to make it work. We can either accpet the times or be miserable for a long time. The one thing I would like to see more of my co-workers stop doing is judging the younger guys from a distance. Recently I bumped into a young lady who seemed to embody the 400 hour wonder child. Boy was i surprised to find out she had 2 type ratings, an ATP, an engineering degree, and had written software codes for Honeywell. Word through the pipeline was also that she was an excellent stick. When she walked through the crew-room door the first thing out of one of the guys mouths was "Here comes the new hiring mins". He swallowed his pride when he found out she was more than qualified to work here, and just about any other place she felt like.