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Jetblue Pilot Association (JBPA) Files with NMB

Cheeta

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For IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
November 12, 2008

JetBlue pilots file petition with NMB for sole bargaining agent representation
(New York) – JetBlue Pilots Association officials today filed a petition with the National Mediation Board (NMB) to gain recognition as the sole bargaining agent for the nearly 2,000 pilots of JetBlue. Pilot association leaders said they are seeking formal recognition in order to provide career protections for their pilots in a positive way that will help “redefine pilot-labor relations in our industry.”

“We have complete faith in our current company leadership and believe that this will be a cooperative effort,” JetBlue Pilots Association leaders Captains Michael Sorbie and William Evans said in a joint statement. “As our airline matures, we want to ensure that the career expectations of our pilots will remain intact regardless of organizational changes. We welcome the opportunity to communicate concerns through a voice that is supported by the lawful process of the Railway Labor Act. This process also provides a stability and cost certainty that will be beneficial to our company as we grow into the future.”

Association leaders provided advance notice of the intent to file the petition to both CEO David Barger and the JetBlue Board of Directors, indicating the type of relationship that exists today and confirming the type of direction that should be expected in the future.

“Our desire to seek formal recognition underscores our need to have a relationship based not only on the benevolence of a leadership team that could transition at any time, but on a relationship where there exists a means to resolve our private discourses under the support of legal process,” Capt. Sorbie said.

The NMB soon will begin the steps toward a request for an election and representation authorization. JetBlue Pilots Association leaders are proposing an independent organization and are not seeking association with any third party national union.
 

Fubijaakr

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Amen, brother. Good for them, I say.

Welcome to the fight.
 

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Hypocritical morons.

Everyone at JB was hired knowing gawd-damn well it was a non union shop.

Barger is the best CEO in the industry who voluntarily took a 50% pay cut to lead by example.

Waah. Waah. Waah. I want. I want. I want.

I wonder how many JB pilots go to work asking themselves:

"What can I do TODAY to add value to this operation?"

Instead most of them bitch and moan, piss and whine about "how bad things are". The economy is going right down the toilet and JB pilots are thinking that a union/third party orgization will improve things.

JB pilots SHOULD be going to Barger, Chew and Ross and say: "Look! The economy is taking a BIG SH*T. We are here to help. What do you need US to do, so WE can all make sure that JetBlue survives and thrives? What tools can WE, the PILOT GROUP provide to management so we survive and thrive?"

Show some true leadership and maybe the rest of the crewmembers will actually respect you as a leader.

That's what should get done, but it won't. Too many JetBlue pilots are typical born-and-bred American dopes that think you can get something for nothing.
 

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Maybe the time has come for a union at JB.

Recall that when JB came into the airline business with A320 pay rates far below the industry standard, it seemed to be just a matter of time before the pilot group would expect more.

With all the new growth happening at JB, it is not surprising to expect the pilots to want more of their fair share. Organizing is the right step to begin the process.
 

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With all the new growth happening at JB, it is not surprising to expect the pilots to want more of their fair share. Organizing is the right step to begin the process.

Growth at JetBlue?? I don't think so......:confused:
 

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Barger is the best CEO in the industry who voluntarily took a 50% pay cut to lead by example.

Barger took a 25% pay cut not a 50% pay cut. But this was after his pay raise.
His pay cut was announced as a 50% cut for the last 6 months of 2008.
 

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I`m one of the many JB pilots who don`t want a union- I sure hope the majority still feels the way i do.
 

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I`m one of the many JB pilots who don`t want a union- I sure hope the majority still feels the way i do.

So status quo - a continuous deterioration of pay, benefits, and working conditions - is OK for the foreseeable future? I for one am not clamoring for more, I'm just tired of stuff we already have being taken away overnight.
 

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I don't feel to bad for Mr. Barger living in his 25 million dollar condo at the Plaza. His salary is not how he got the cushy pad, it was stock and bonus money that got him there. Pilots that believe that they company will do the right thing are fools. Perhaps people like kummutrdog should take a pay cut to feel better about themselves.
 

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With all the new growth happening at JB, it is not surprising to expect the pilots to want more of their fair share. Organizing is the right step to begin the process.

No growth is a big part of the dissatisfaction here at JetBlue. When everyone was upgrading on the Bus at 2 years and holding a line everything was peachy. Now we have guys on property that will never see the left seat of the Airbus with the current 'growth' rates.
 

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They'd better get a union, and a contract with solid successorship stipulations. If anybody there thinks management wouldn't sell you out if it profited them, you're delusional.
 

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No growth is a big part of the dissatisfaction here at JetBlue. When everyone was upgrading on the Bus at 2 years and holding a line everything was peachy. Now we have guys on property that will never see the left seat of the Airbus with the current 'growth' rates.


Did people hired at JB really expect growth rates to keep going to where they could all be an Airbus captain in two years? I mean, it's one thing for a company to double in size in two years when you only have 25 airplanes. When you have over 100 airplanes, it's becomes very hard. Two year upgrades where there for folks hired in the early years. Good for them, they deserve it. They took a chance on a start up and it paid off. But anyone hired in the last few years who expected to be two year Bus captain was kidding themself.
 
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Anybody hired at JetBlue prior to '07 was not being unrealistic in expecting an Airbus CA seat within 4 years. Things change and nothing is guaranteed, but part of the sell to come to JetBlue was the expectation of a reasonably fast upgrade. JetBlue's pay scale is based on that assumption. An FO essentially tops out at year 4. There are only minor increases after that. Since upgrade expectations have changed a lot of us think the FO compensation should be adjusted to reflect that reality.
 

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Hypocritical morons.

Everyone at JB was hired knowing gawd-damn well it was a non union shop.

Barger is the best CEO in the industry who voluntarily took a 50% pay cut to lead by example.

Waah. Waah. Waah. I want. I want. I want.

I wonder how many JB pilots go to work asking themselves:

"What can I do TODAY to add value to this operation?"

Instead most of them bitch and moan, piss and whine about "how bad things are". The economy is going right down the toilet and JB pilots are thinking that a union/third party orgization will improve things.

JB pilots SHOULD be going to Barger, Chew and Ross and say: "Look! The economy is taking a BIG SH*T. We are here to help. What do you need US to do, so WE can all make sure that JetBlue survives and thrives? What tools can WE, the PILOT GROUP provide to management so we survive and thrive?"

Show some true leadership and maybe the rest of the crewmembers will actually respect you as a leader.

That's what should get done, but it won't. Too many JetBlue pilots are typical born-and-bred American dopes that think you can get something for nothing.

Thanks for making this point NO JBPA
 

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Hypocritical morons.

Everyone at JB was hired knowing gawd-damn well it was a non union shop.

Barger is the best CEO in the industry who voluntarily took a 50% pay cut to lead by example.

Waah. Waah. Waah. I want. I want. I want.

I wonder how many JB pilots go to work asking themselves:

"What can I do TODAY to add value to this operation?"

Instead most of them bitch and moan, piss and whine about "how bad things are". The economy is going right down the toilet and JB pilots are thinking that a union/third party orgization will improve things.

JB pilots SHOULD be going to Barger, Chew and Ross and say: "Look! The economy is taking a BIG SH*T. We are here to help. What do you need US to do, so WE can all make sure that JetBlue survives and thrives? What tools can WE, the PILOT GROUP provide to management so we survive and thrive?"

Show some true leadership and maybe the rest of the crewmembers will actually respect you as a leader.

That's what should get done, but it won't. Too many JetBlue pilots are typical born-and-bred American dopes that think you can get something for nothing.

Angry lately?
 

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I guess Jenny is on here also.
 

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Hypocritical morons.

Everyone at JB was hired knowing gawd-damn well it was a non union shop.

Barger is the best CEO in the industry who voluntarily took a 50% pay cut to lead by example.

Waah. Waah. Waah. I want. I want. I want.

I wonder how many JB pilots go to work asking themselves:

"What can I do TODAY to add value to this operation?"

Instead most of them bitch and moan, piss and whine about "how bad things are". The economy is going right down the toilet and JB pilots are thinking that a union/third party orgization will improve things.

JB pilots SHOULD be going to Barger, Chew and Ross and say: "Look! The economy is taking a BIG SH*T. We are here to help. What do you need US to do, so WE can all make sure that JetBlue survives and thrives? What tools can WE, the PILOT GROUP provide to management so we survive and thrive?"

Show some true leadership and maybe the rest of the crewmembers will actually respect you as a leader.

That's what should get done, but it won't. Too many JetBlue pilots are typical born-and-bred American dopes that think you can get something for nothing.

Was that sarcasm? I mean, nobody can truly be this dense, right?
 

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Hypocritical morons.

Everyone at JB was hired knowing gawd-damn well it was a non union shop.

Barger is the best CEO in the industry who voluntarily took a 50% pay cut to lead by example.

Waah. Waah. Waah. I want. I want. I want.

I wonder how many JB pilots go to work asking themselves:

"What can I do TODAY to add value to this operation?"

Instead most of them bitch and moan, piss and whine about "how bad things are". The economy is going right down the toilet and JB pilots are thinking that a union/third party orgization will improve things.

JB pilots SHOULD be going to Barger, Chew and Ross and say: "Look! The economy is taking a BIG SH*T. We are here to help. What do you need US to do, so WE can all make sure that JetBlue survives and thrives? What tools can WE, the PILOT GROUP provide to management so we survive and thrive?"

Show some true leadership and maybe the rest of the crewmembers will actually respect you as a leader.

That's what should get done, but it won't. Too many JetBlue pilots are typical born-and-bred American dopes that think you can get something for nothing.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and based on your post it is obvious that emotion and misinformation drive your rantings.

unfortunately my fellow JB Crewmembers are doing everything they can to add " Value " to the operation

1. Most fuel efficient airline in the world
2. Second most productive ( behind swa )
3. Crewmembers that work on no pay committees only to have their findings swept under the rug.

I could continue my litany for hours..

MIT put out a study on pilot compensation. Do a google search and I am sure you can find it.

All Any JB pilot is looking for is management accountability, Industry Average work rules, benefits, and compensation.

I dont think that is going to bankrupt the airline anytime soon. Expecting or in this case accepting any less than that just makes you the idiot.
 
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