jetblue or US Airways?

[densoo]

Also: when you interview, make yourself believe that the job you are interviewing for is your dream job/company.

Truer words have not been spoken. Fake it til you make it. Happy talk until you're off probation.

 

[densoo]

You will know the correct choice the day you retire.

But you may know the wrong choice a lot sooner than that.

 

[climbhappy]

it's Tebow time...pray about it...couldn't hurt you. being a pilot today is alot like being in a foxhole anyway.

 

[sniper]

Airways...


JB will be the next peoples express

 

[MCDU]

Airways...


JB will be the next peoples express

PE pilots did real well. Merging with CAL.

M

 

[Blue Dude]

Not to mention JB has lasted a lot longer than PE and is still making money.

PS, 2002 called and wants its PeoplExpress analogy back.

 

[Fubijaakr]

VX is more in the PE mode.

 

[reepicheep]

Do you want to work for the company with the highest costs....how's that worked out the last few decades?

 

[Crzipilot]

Actually most of the retirements at Airways are F.O.'s.

Just Saying.

Part of the spin machine from the West......

Was bored tonight, so looked at the list of over 60 guys for bidding on the East side for the Month of Jan.

405 Capts.

80 F/Os on 330 or 75/767
61 F/Os on rest of fleet


Hmmm so I guess in the next 5 years, 80+61>405 ?!?!?!?

Not to mention, those capts going out, will result in f/o's moving over, as well as those f/o's on the wide bodies going out, moving quite a few up onto the wide bodies. If deliveries actually come, and depending on what they do with the remaining 75/767's, could be interesting...

 

[n757st]

Do you want to work for the company with the highest costs....how's that worked out the last few decades?

Neither company is remotely high cost.

 

[Metrojet]

So much love/hate for both.....SO, if given the choice:

Jetblue or US Airways?

Discuss....

(can't say neither, has to be one)

Nobody has discussed it yet - but go with the one company with a big base in the city you want to live in - commuting sucks whether your on reserve or a block-holder - your quality of life will be extremely better if you don't have to get on an airplane to go to work or go home!


Metrojet (been commuting the whole time!)

 

[reepicheep]

Neither company is remotely high cost.

http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2011/bts055_11/html/bts055_11.html

Airways has the highest CASM of all network & LCC's.
jetBlues's costs are approx. 40% lower.

 

[n757st]

http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2011/bts055_11/html/bts055_11.html

Airways has the highest CASM of all network & LCC's.
jetBlues's costs are approx. 40% lower.

I'd imagine most of that is from regional flying etc. otherwise frontier wouldn't have costs of 16 cents.

 

[JetMonkey]

Part of the spin machine from the West......

Was bored tonight, so looked at the list of over 60 guys for bidding on the East side for the Month of Jan.

405 Capts.

80 F/Os on 330 or 75/767
61 F/Os on rest of fleet


Hmmm so I guess in the next 5 years, 80+61>405 ?!?!?!?

Not to mention, those capts going out, will result in f/o's moving over, as well as those f/o's on the wide bodies going out, moving quite a few up onto the wide bodies. If deliveries actually come, and depending on what they do with the remaining 75/767's, could be interesting...

Wow. 546 east guys are already over 60. That's about 20% of their list. BTW, one more year from today for that gravy train ride.

 

[Lake Alice]

Who has the best chance of being involved in a merger or acquisition? Which pilot group will have a say in their future? As a Jetblue pilot you have no say. The Jetblue pilot group will be forced to rely on years and years of self paid lawsuits to fight it's seniority integration. USair pilots, despite past legal battles, still have a say in their future.

The best case scenario Jetblue pilots can hope for is a staple. Regardless of what our PEA says you have to fight these battles in court. We don't have the resources to do so. USair pilots do.

 

[CapnVegetto]

US Air is a great place to get on right now. Tons of upcoming retirements.

JB is a decent place to work, will get better with a union. There is a merger/acquisition in the future, don't believe the organic growth BS. It's coming, just a question of who and when.

Go to the first place that hires you, but undoubtably a better future at USAir simply due to the retirement situation.

 

[aeolian]

if you are a positive person...airways might work. but you'll need the attitude to keep yourself sane. there are so many morons who blame everybody else (alpa, parker, bk judge, leonidas, wake, silver) for a situation created by their own leadership (davis, freshwater, crocker, brookman, ciabitonni, garbett, rowe, mowrey, and a half dozen others) and line pilot personal inattention. line guys have not paid enough attention there for YEARS...just sooo easy to go with they guy who espouses the simple solution... one that suits their mindset..facts be dammed...complexities are someone else's worry..(never really noticing that it's not worked out so well)

if you need the culture to keep you up then JB has it over US. JB will grow a bit every year... US will attrit you up the list at breakneck speed starting in three or four years..absent a merger...all bets off there... as seen with the us/aw integration attrition may or may not count for much

 

[My Man SMITH!]

Both are better than staying at a regional. I don't think either of these companies will be in their present form in a few years. I would take either but ultimately go with the one that would eliminate a commute. Good luck.

 

[johnsonrod]

Maybe this has already been discussed, but rumor has it that US Airways has been picking up a lot of PDT pilots lately? True? Big number or small number of pilots?

I guess with the reductions in LGA flying and questions about PDT's role at US Airways in the future, the more senior PDT pilots are starting to imagine life outside the Dash...

What other regionals are becoming popular sources of new USAirways pilots?

 

[outerlimits]

What are the requirements of both to get on ?