Jetblue or spirit

[n757st]

The guys in the training dept are saying we will be hiring 350 in 2012 at JB.

The check airmen at JetBlue are saying 100.... We over hired a bit in 2011, hence bid denominators where they are. As far as I know, we will be targeting 200-250 per year plus attrition for the foreseeable future.

 

[i fly boxes]

Already Done On December 29, 2011, Spirit Airlines, Inc. entered into Amendment No. 11 to the Airbus A320 Family Purchase Agreement, by and between the Company and Airbus S.A.S. (legal successor to AVSA S.A.R.L.) dated as of May 5, 2004, and eight separate letter agreements related thereto . The Airbus Amendment represents the definitive agreement memorializing the Memorandum of Understanding, previously announced on November 15, 2011, for an order of 75 A320 family aircraft consisting of 30 of the existing aircraft model and 45 A320 NEO (New Engine Option) aircraft. These aircraft are scheduled for delivery from 2016 through 2021 and are in addition to the 31 aircraft scheduled to be delivered under the Company's existing order from 2012 through 2015.

NevermInd

 

[kwick]

Already Done On December 29, 2011, Spirit Airlines, Inc. entered into Amendment No. 11 to the Airbus A320 Family Purchase Agreement, by and between the Company and Airbus S.A.S. (legal successor to AVSA S.A.R.L.) dated as of May 5, 2004, and eight separate letter agreements related thereto . The Airbus Amendment represents the definitive agreement memorializing the Memorandum of Understanding, previously announced on November 15, 2011, for an order of 75 A320 family aircraft consisting of 30 of the existing aircraft model and 45 A320 NEO (New Engine Option) aircraft. These aircraft are scheduled for delivery from 2016 through 2021 and are in addition to the 31 aircraft scheduled to be delivered under the Company's existing order from 2012 through 2015.

So, Spirit will double in size in the next 3-5 years, based on scheduled
aircraft to be delivered.

If you're hired,in 5 years you will be on 5 year Captain pay at Spirit, which I have found from friends there to be about $138/hr or be a 5 year F/O at Jetblue at
about $98/hr.

It doesn't seem like a hard decision.

 

[sfomarc]

I would go with Spirit unless you want to work for SWA down the road, if you know what I mean.

 

[sealy101]

Hope I get the job

 

[Turtle21]

...Airplane orders are nothing until the aircraft is on property ..

The voice of experience.

 

[kwick]

The voice of experience.

Thats more true at the commuter airlines, where the affiliated Major
airline can move the future flying from one airline to another.

Its pretty simple math to realize that a 35 plane airline that's very profitable with over 70
firm orders, is more likely to double in size than a 200 plane airline, in the same time frame.

There are still people out there that thought Jetblue would never
grow either.

The key is getting on at the begining of the hiring cycle.

 

[N813CA]

250 is the correct answer for hiring at JetBlue for 2012 from the OSC.

 

[Turtle21]

Thats more true at the commuter airlines, where the affiliated Major
airline can move the future flying from one airline to another.

Its pretty simple math to realize that a 35 plane airline that's very profitable with over 70
firm orders, is more likely to double in size than a 200 plane airline, in the same time frame.

There are still people out there that thought Jetblue would never
grow either.

The key is getting on at the begining of the hiring cycle.

The key is living below your income/winnings. Gamblers know that the house always has its day.

 

[waveflyer]

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[sealy101]

Already Done On December 29, 2011, Spirit Airlines, Inc. entered into Amendment No. 11 to the Airbus A320 Family Purchase Agreement, by and between the Company and Airbus S.A.S. (legal successor to AVSA S.A.R.L.) dated as of May 5, 2004, and eight separate letter agreements related thereto . The Airbus Amendment represents the definitive agreement memorializing the Memorandum of Understanding, previously announced on November 15, 2011, for an order of 75 A320 family aircraft consisting of 30 of the existing aircraft model and 45 A320 NEO (New Engine Option) aircraft. These aircraft are scheduled for delivery from 2016 through 2021 and are in addition to the 31 aircraft scheduled to be delivered under the Company's existing order from 2012 through 2015.

why hasnt spirit made the aircraft orders public then. you would think it would be on their web page?

 

[$$$4nothin]

The guys in the training dept are saying we will be hiring 350 in 2012 at JB.

Being at the bottom of the B6 list I want us to grow more than anyone. However we are getting 11 aircraft in 2012. At 13.8-14 pilots per plane that equals around 154 pilots needed. Ill give ya 30 pilots in attrition/retirement etc. and I would say 180-200 pilots tops in 2012.

Obviously just guessing here, but I would say 200 new hires will be a pretty close number.

 

[StarChecker]

Obviously just guessing here, but I would say 200 new hires will be a pretty close number.

Just finished recurrent on Friday....

68 new hires 1Q-3Q
20ish 4Q
88 total 2012

Not including attrition....we lost 30 last year. There are 140ish in the pool so I don't expect any interviews this year.

So with attrition....MAYBE we'll hire 100 this year.

 

[banger]

Being at the bottom of the B6 list I want us to grow more than anyone. However we are getting 11 aircraft in 2012. At 13.8-14 pilots per plane that equals around 154 pilots needed. Ill give ya 30 pilots in attrition/retirement etc. and I would say 180-200 pilots tops in 2012.

Obviously just guessing here, but I would say 200 new hires will be a pretty close number.

Don't forget we deal a lot of aircraft off the bottom of the list here at bluejet.

 

[Smarta$$]

Don't forget we deal a lot of aircraft off the bottom of the list here at bluejet.

They have been saying 11 NET aircraft for 2012. Also, with our new DCA and LGA slots, I doubt we will take less than the 11 NET aircraft.

 

[outerlimits]

I would like to be at either . Both seem like a good place to me.

 

[banger]

I'm at jetblue and I like it but honestly I just don't see the growth happening here. If your here already great but if your at the bottom be ready for years and years of reserve. If you live in NYC by all means come over.

 

[cbrown1]

Any guess on when the next Jblue window will open?

 

[BrickTop]

If you had a choice which airline would you choose?

Go buy a lotto ticket. Your odds are better of becoming an instant millionaire than being hired in the U.S. as an airline pilot.

 

[waveflyer]

Go buy a lotto ticket. Your odds are better of becoming an instant millionaire than being hired in the U.S. as an airline pilot.

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