JetBlue class dates

[RiddleEagle18]

There were more unfilled 190 positions in JFK than BOS on the last bid. There will be another bid sometime next week. Stay tuned.

 

[Splert]

50 more this year is a good start, when might the pool run dry? Something like 130 total.

It might take 130 to pull 20.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Most of the Florida and LGB guys live in base, and are firmly entrenched in whatever seat they are in, with little to no desire to upgrade and/or commute again. There's not a lot of movement there.

I don't know why everybody think most LGB guys live in base.
I don't know about the Florida bases, but I just went line-by-line down the LGB pilot phone list.
Only 79 out of 217 guys list LGB/LAX as their closest airport. All the rest are scattered all over the west and commute.

Maybe that perception is part of the reason our pairing suck so badly.

 

[Smarta$$]

It might take 130 to pull 20.

How utterly F$&&%$ dishonest.

Your lies never end.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

How utterly F$&&%$ dishonest.

Your lies never end.

Well, a few years ago when we lost about 10% of the seniority list, they were hiring guys AT a MCO job fair. Took them right upstairs for the drug test, on the spot.
I commute on several regionals. I'm seldom asked about B6 hiring and never by the captains anymore.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Well, a few years ago when we lost about 10% of the seniority list, they were hiring guys AT a MCO job fair. Took them right upstairs for the drug test, on the spot.
I commute on several regionals. I'm seldom asked about B6 hiring and never by the captains anymore.

Well, the guys in the pool have already gone through the process, so clearly they were interested in B6. I'm betting that out of the 130, 100 will take the job since there aren't many people hiring in large numbers right now.

 

[BeachBummer]

It's been a year. Some could wait others cannot. I know two guys that have left the pool, one went to SWA the other went corperate. Neither will be attending class here.

A year ago it was easy to be "interested" in jetblue. We were the only game hiring in town. I think the real question for the poolies is what is your plan B... or is jetblue your plan B and whats your plan A?

So saying that 130 to get 20 is a stretch, probably, but hardly dishonest. Either way movement at other airlines will make motion here at B6.

 

[Smarta$$]

I have a friend who is number 60 in the pool. By your math he should be called for the next class. I will let you know if you are correct. Don't hold your breath.

 

[Pattern-Master]

Do most pilots at Jetblue see this place as career type of place or just a job until something else comes along? I understand there is a younger pilot group over there and upgrades will take a long time due to lack of retirements or attrition. Also,what is best way to find out of upcoming job fairs at there Orlando facility, I live about 5 minutes from there.

 

[Splert]

How utterly F$&&%$ dishonest.

Your lies never end.

Please quote a single lie and then grow up.

I posted "might' and as another poster wrote when we interviewed in OSC a few years ago pilots went straight from interview to offered class before back ground checks were completed.

JetBlue does not pull from the pool in order. Instead they pull in an attempt to have the "right mix".

 

[Smarta$$]

Please quote a single lie and then grow up.

I posted "might' and as another poster wrote when we interviewed in OSC a few years ago pilots went straight from interview to offered class before back ground checks were completed.

JetBlue does not pull from the pool in order. Instead they pull in an attempt to have the "right mix".

Oh, give me a break... "I posted might" so don't take me serious...

The company says they want 50 more new hires in 2012, so by your math, they would have to be opening the application window and interviewing because the pool would be drained.

You're full of $$$hit.

 

[milehigh6080]

Do most pilots at Jetblue see this place as career type of place or just a job until something else comes along? I understand there is a younger pilot group over there and upgrades will take a long time due to lack of retirements or attrition. Also,what is best way to find out of upcoming job fairs at there Orlando facility, I live about 5 minutes from there.

Good question.

For those who are paying attention, there are two groups- the haves and the will nevers. The haves have been here over 6 years or so and have upgraded. Captain pay here is nothing to be excited about, but viewed against the backdrop of the concessionary contracts that are only now starting to disappear and especially against newhire pay at any major, it's not bad at all. If you're a captain here, it would be a hard decision to leave because it's a decent place to work and it would take a long time to work your way back up the list to break even with your current pay. Captains and people within a hundred numbers or so from upgrade would have a difficult decision to leave.

If you're further than 100 numbers or so from upgrade and especially if you're under 40, it's insanity to not be looking around at your options. Maybe you'll look at those options and ultimately decide to stay, but you're out of your mind to not be looking. The industry is going to retire one pilot every 18 hours once 65 starts really hitting, JetBlue is going to retire about 1 pilot per month during the same period. How does that strike you? Are you willing to bet your career that Barger will magically grow some balls and start aggressively growing the company again- because that's the only way you're going to see upward movement here.

There are definitely worse places to get stuck. If you're in one of those places, come on over to JetBlue- it's pretty nice for the short term and probably not the worst place to get stuck if things don't pan out and allow you to move on to the next big thing, but come here with wide eyes. Come here knowing that nothing is guaranteed, the "work rules" if you want to call them that can change in an instant, almost everything except your pay rate can be taken away from you at any time through a simple email from ELT. For now, it's not bad, in the future, who knows? Come on over if it's better than where you are right now, but keep that resume ready and start sending it out as soon as the real hiring starts.

Many of the crazy pro company people on this board fall into one of two camps. Camp one is very senior and has no idea what it's like to not be very senior here because the company was growing quickly when they got here. Camp two is made up of people who, above all else, want to believe that they've made the best possible decision for themselves, and with no regard for any and all evidence to the contrary, they have their eyes closed and their fingers in their ears. They're only concerned with justifying their decision rather than analyzing new information and recalibrating. Don't be that guy, it's sad and pathetic.

 

[Smarta$$]

Or, they like their job. That could also be the case sir.

As far as upgrade or progression, we have some retirements further down the road, we have growth (aircraft orders are big, while returning almost no airplanes these days) and we have attrition. Now you people who pretend this place is a Chinese sweat shop always say how we will be losing hundreds of pilots due to attrition... Well, that will equate to movement from those at the bottom, and the growth and retirements, plus attrition will mean decent movement.

Yes the attrition will be from mostly FO's, although we have many captains with legacy recalls, so they could leave as well, if this place were as bad as you pretend.

Either way, we are one union vote from fixing most of our benefit issues, and I can guarantee you, you guys still won't be happy.

I fly with VERY FEW people who actually entertain leaving JetBlue, contrary to the picture you paint.

 

[Splert]

Oh, give me a break... "I posted might" so don't take me serious...

The company says they want 50 more new hires in 2012, so by your math, they would have to be opening the application window and interviewing because the pool would be drained.

You're full of $$$hit.

Why would we open the application window?

Also the "company says" ... That is funny

The "company said" in recurrent last year we would hire 250 + pilots in 2012.

Still waiting for you to quote a post were I lied.

You are all velocity and no vector rookie and you guard this web board like someone who sticks up for their girl friends honor even though everyone else knows she is smoking the football team.

 

[say again]

Why would we open the application window?

Also the "company says" ... That is funny

The "company said" in recurrent last year we would hire 250 + pilots in 2012.

Still waiting for you to quote a post were I lied.

You are all velocity and no vector rookie and you guard this web board like someone who sticks up for their girl friends honor even though everyone else knows she is smoking the football team.

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