JetBlue ALPA Card Campaign started today

[Lake Alice]

The filing was supposed to happen today. Not sure what the hiccup is. As for as the outsourcing is concerned all the codeshare agreements we are signing with international carriers can be seen as such. Jetblue is determined to make sure we do not do any of that flying on our own. Their rationale is cost based which contradicts our argument for "culture". Originally we would not use regional carriers to do our short haul flying because of culture and customer experience. Now with all the international agreements being signed and the PVC(4 members) agreeing to allow Jetblue to start and alter-ego airline or purchase a regional carrier all bets are off.

 

[AKAAB]

The filing with the NMB was completed today. Just got the message.

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

The filing was supposed to happen today. Not sure what the hiccup is. As for as the outsourcing is concerned all the codeshare agreements we are signing with international carriers can be seen as such. Jetblue is determined to make sure we do not do any of that flying on our own. Their rationale is cost based which contradicts our argument for "culture". Originally we would not use regional carriers to do our short haul flying because of culture and customer experience. Now with all the international agreements being signed and the PVC(4 members) agreeing to allow Jetblue to start and alter-ego airline or purchase a regional carrier all bets are off.

Remind us again which international carriers have we signed "codeshare agreements" with? Do you know what a codeshare is?

 

[Fins Up]

Who gives a crap. Let them keep the beloved SWA in majors and leave the rest of us lowly LCCs here. Does it really matter? Seems like just combining to two categories would be the thing to do.

Back on topic. When's the vote? Beginning of June or so?

 

[BeachBummer]

It will take some time to count and verify all the cards. After that the NMB will schedule the vote. My best guess would be inthe first half of july.

 

[Tomct]

Good Luck guys/gals. I hope it all works out for ya'll!!

 

[SpeedBird]

Looks like the management of JetBlue has suspeneded the BluePilots forum....

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Surprised it took as long as it did since the announcement....

 

[AKAAB]

Looks like the management of JetBlue has suspeneded the BluePilots forum....

Sauce for the goose. We'll have a secure forum in its place in no time and JB shills and trolls will not have access to our discussions. In the big picture, it's a good thing.

 

[Pilotbob3]

Sauce for the goose. We'll have a secure forum in its place in no time and JB shills and trolls will not have access to our discussions. In the big picture, it's a good thing.

www.b6pilots.com

 

[ArmadilloJackal]

It doesn't look like the owner of the site shut it down. It looks like the hosting company suspended it for using too many resources on a shared server. The traffic spike since the filing probably got it suspended.

 

[Lake Alice]

www.b6pilots.com

At least we know an actual Jetblue pilot owns this site.

 

[nimtz]

But as always ALPA knows best. MIT Researcher W. Swelbar had this to say about scope and labor.

I recommend you look into this former flight attendant's scholarly work. Let's just say with his basis if he were a political analyst he'd only find work at Fox News or MSNBC. And it's no coink dink that lately his consulting gigs have come straight from management. With a scholarly record that includes a MBA, I'm sure all the MIT professors bow down when Dr. Swelbar enters the room.

 

[filejw]

One thing you should know about ALPA is they outsource your most important issue to an arbitrator.They say the have a merger policy but what they really do is just pass this most important duty to somebody else. You could be working and paying dues to them for 30 years and come merger time only get credit for 20 yrs..

 

[B6Busdriver]

One thing you should know about ALPA is they outsource your most important issue to an arbitrator.They say the have a merger policy but what they really do is just pass this most important duty to somebody else. You could be working and paying dues to them for 30 years and come merger time only get credit for 20 yrs..

Outsourced? The process works like this..... Two sides can't come together so an INDEPENDANT arbitrator is used. It would be great for pilots if a "union" arbitrator is used but that would make the process a bit skewed. Doncha think?

Were you TWA or Us Air?

 

[Fubijaakr]

Were you TWA or Us Air?

Right to the heart of the matter.

 

[bluesideup340]

I recommend you look into this former flight attendant's scholarly work. Let's just say with his basis if he were a political analyst he'd only find work at Fox News or MSNBC. And it's no coink dink that lately his consulting gigs have come straight from management. With a scholarly record that includes a MBA, I'm sure all the MIT professors bow down when Dr. Swelbar enters the room.

After you attacked the individual for his achievements, I am sure you will now find the time to make a substantive counter argument.

 

[filejw]

Outsourced? The process works like this..... Two sides can't come together so an INDEPENDANT arbitrator is used. It would be great for pilots if a "union" arbitrator is used but that would make the process a bit skewed. Doncha think?

Were you TWA or Us Air?

Neither, the point being ALPA has somebody else do the dirty work because they don have the balls to set up predetermined rules and stick to them. When you are paying dues to a union you should know exactly what will happen to you in the event of a merger. Not arbitrated by some other entity.