Jet Time and the majors

[suupah]

Does anyone know of which majors will only hire if you have Jet time specifically and not just turbine time?

 

[igneousy2]

Does anyone know of which majors will only hire if you have Jet time specifically and not just turbine time?

Nobody says you have to have jet time vs. turbine time. Old school (pre 9/11) was that it didn't matter one bit as long as you were signing for the aircraft. At that time there wasn't thousands of guys with thousands of hours PIC in jets trying to get into the majors. The next time hiring starts up again, who knows what will be the case. If I were hiring at a major, I would prefer pilots with substantial PIC Jet time than substantial PIC turbo-prop time.

Later

 

[California]

Nobody says you have to have jet time vs. turbine time. Old school (pre 9/11) was that it didn't matter one bit as long as you were signing for the aircraft. At that time there wasn't thousands of guys with thousands of hours PIC in jets trying to get into the majors. The next time hiring starts up again, who knows what will be the case. If I were hiring at a major, I would prefer pilots with substantial PIC Jet time than substantial PIC turbo-prop time.

Later

Why would you want someone with more pic jet time vs a turboprop guy?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I agree. Quality PIC time in turbine equipment is more important than jet vs. t-prop. Anyone can be taught how to fly a jet, so I would hire the competent pilot first.

 

[Capt.LongThrust]

Nobody says you have to have jet time vs. turbine time. Old school (pre 9/11) was that it didn't matter one bit as long as you were signing for the aircraft. At that time there wasn't thousands of guys with thousands of hours PIC in jets trying to get into the majors. The next time hiring starts up again, who knows what will be the case. If I were hiring at a major, I would prefer pilots with substantial PIC Jet time than substantial PIC turbo-prop time.

Later

Dude, just because you have jet PIC does not mean you are an experienced pilot. All it means is that your seniority number came up first. I can say first hand I have watched a TP driver fly circles around an "experienced jet pilot" on the first day in a jet sim. From the looks of your profile you will not be hiring anyone anytime soon, thankfully.

 

[Bart Simpson]

The 'majors' hiring?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[General Lee]

The 'majors' hiring?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How about Continental? Wake up Bart.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[suupah]

Does anyone know, which majors require jet time specifically and which don't?

does continental hire t prop drivers?

 

[taters]

Ya if ya blow who ya know at CO it is not impossible to be hired

 

[HughBeamont]

Ya if ya blow who ya know at CO it is not impossible to be hired

It's poor taste to have a retarded person for your avatar.

 

[Chosen One]

It's poor taste to have a retarded person for your avatar.

Don't rush to judgement, maybe that's his picture!

 

[mamba20]

Could be, his aircraft experience says "CRJ200 Sim" if that says anything.

 

[whereamI]

It's poor taste to have a retarded person for your avatar.

Following this line of thinking, I do believe it would be poor taste to refer to said person as "retarded". Definitely not the most politically correct descriptor.

 

[whereamI]

And what exactly does "(FUR) CHQ" mean anyway?

 

[Captain Overs]

Why would you want someone with more pic jet time vs a turboprop guy?

Maybe because you will be flying a jet. Where's your head?

 

[California]

Maybe because you will be flying a jet. Where's your head?

If I had a head I wouldn't be in this career or writing on a message board when I should be out meeting girls.

I don't think it matters if the multi turbine aircaft you fly turns a prop or a fan.

 

[Captain Overs]

If I had a head I wouldn't be in this career or writing on a message board when I should be out meeting girls.

I don't think it matters if the multi turbine aircaft you fly turns a prop or a fan.

LOL! If any of us had brains we wouldn't be in aviation. I just do it to meet chicks.

 

[HughBeamont]

Following this line of thinking, I do believe it would be poor taste to refer to said person as "retarded". Definitely not the most politically correct descriptor.

I was just kidding. The thread was still on track after several posts, and we all know that isn't how this board works.

 

[suupah]

ok.....t props....majors......

yes....no....?

 

[whereamI]

I was just kidding. The thread was still on track after several posts, and we all know that isn't how this board works.

Yeah, I know. To get back on track, I say it doesn't matter. If it's over 20,000 lbs, PIC time is what counts. An airplane is an airplane, and a turbine engine is a jet engine driving a prop. But what the he!! do I know, I am just a pilot.

 

[Smoking Man]

ok.....t props....majors......

yes....no....?

When I interviewed with jetBlue I had 25hrs PIC in the rj, the other 1700 pic was turboprop, one of the guys in the crashpad all of his PIC was in the sabb. So I would answer your question as yes.

 

[Alchemy]

Continental loves to hire Gulfstream Airlines pilots. Gulfstream doesn't have any jets. The hate to hire Expressjet pilots. The only thing Expressjet has are jets.

 

[igneousy2]

Dude, just because you have jet PIC does not mean you are an experienced pilot. All it means is that your seniority number came up first. I can say first hand I have watched a TP driver fly circles around an "experienced jet pilot" on the first day in a jet sim. From the looks of your profile you will not be hiring anyone anytime soon, thankfully.

Sorry, didn't mean to get your panties all twisted...maybe I should be more clear.

10000tt 6000PIC T/P superb airmanship demonstrated in sim eval.

or

10000tt 6000PIC JET superb airmanship demonstrated in sim eval.

You can only pick one. Who do you pick? Who is less likely to crunch it in one day because they forgot that they ain't flying a straight winged airplane anymore?

I'm not knocking you...I won't have any jet PIC when I'm applying either. The company I fly for now does not even own a jet, the CEO has stated that we have no plans to ever get a jet. I have friends back at my old company that I know are better pilots than I am and they have ZERO PIC, why wouldn't they want to pick them?

 

[igneousy2]

Pilot Positions
Thank you for your interest in joining the Continental team. Continental anticipates the need to hire a significant number of pilots during the second half of 2005.
The following are the minimum qualifications to apply for a pilot position:
1,500 hours fixed-wing total flight time
1,000 hours fixed-wing PIC time, or 500 hours PIC time and 500 hours SIC time in a turbojet
1,000 hours fixed-wing turbine time
1,000 hours fixed-wing multi-engine time (civilian or military) or 1,000 hours single-engine military fighter jet time
A current ATP written exam
A current first class FAA medical
A current passport
A Bachelor's degree is highly desired


I guess it DOES matter.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Sorry, didn't mean to get your panties all twisted...maybe I should be more clear.

10000tt 6000PIC T/P superb airmanship demonstrated in sim eval.

or

10000tt 6000PIC JET superb airmanship demonstrated in sim eval.

You can only pick one. Who do you pick?

The one that isn't a cocky tool.

 

[Cardinal]

Pilot Positions
Thank you for your interest in joining the Continental team. Continental anticipates the need to hire a significant number of pilots during the second half of 2005.
The following are the minimum qualifications to apply for a pilot position:
1,500 hours fixed-wing total flight time
1,000 hours fixed-wing PIC time, or 500 hours PIC time and 500 hours SIC time in a turbojet
1,000 hours fixed-wing turbine time
1,000 hours fixed-wing multi-engine time (civilian or military) or 1,000 hours single-engine military fighter jet time
A current ATP written exam
A current first class FAA medical
A current passport
A Bachelor's degree is highly desired


I guess it DOES matter.

Not really.

 

[Capt.LongThrust]

Pilot Positions
Thank you for your interest in joining the Continental team. Continental anticipates the need to hire a significant number of pilots during the second half of 2005.
The following are the minimum qualifications to apply for a pilot position:
1,500 hours fixed-wing total flight time
1,000 hours fixed-wing PIC time, or 500 hours PIC time and 500 hours SIC time in a turbojet
1,000 hours fixed-wing turbine time
1,000 hours fixed-wing multi-engine time (civilian or military) or 1,000 hours single-engine military fighter jet time
A current ATP written exam
A current first class FAA medical
A current passport
A Bachelor's degree is highly desired


I guess it DOES matter.

Hmmmmmmmm, I guess I am coming up short on my fighter jet time. I better receind my CO app. Now where is that AF recruiter.

 

[igneousy2]

Not really.

1. it's a 500 hour difference = about 1 year.
2. It shows that they do in fact value the jet time more.
3. In the past, only the military guys and a few corporate flyers had any jet PIC time to speak of, now there are THOUSANDS of civilian pilots with Jet PIC time wanting a job with a major.

I think over time it will be proven that it does in fact matter. Not that you won't be able to get a job with only t/p time but it will prove more difficult.

 

[328dude]

Who cares? Really. Most of my hours are turbo-prop and the majority of my learning experiences are from turbo props. Even though I fly a jet now, it's not really any diffrent, just a faster airplane that you can't do half the things in that you could in the prop.

I think is a matter of attitude rather than what your flying if your looking into the majors.

Look at Smoking Man, had 25 hours Jet PIC before going over to Blue. He had a great attitude and was a awesome stick on the Dork. Didn't seem to matter to their decision board.

I think the PIC issue is more important than what your flying.

 

[FrustratedCFI]

Like every other pilot seeking to jump to a major when they are healthy and hiring, I listen when someone from an HR department is talking. As I understand, they are looking for attitute first. To get the interview, you will have to meet min quals and competitive quals. Where that level is, is determined partly by your background. They do not want only f16, or only cargo, or only civ airliner, in each class. They want a mix. So logic would dictate that you are in fact competing not against the other guys, i.e. f16 if you come from regionals, and cargo if you come from the f16, but against the other guys and gals from your subgroup. (Here is the sarcasm, this is Flightinfo after all) Right now, however, you still have to be related to the chief pilot to be considered.