JBLUE 4th QTR Earnings

[DIAMONDDD]

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Originally Posted by wndshr
does this mean the beginning of the end for JB???

 

[Dizel8]

"I'm not down on blue, but I am glad that when I go to Southwest"

I am sure SWA will love your attitude.

"I just think people think that JB is this fabulous, wonderful airline"

Oh you mean like SWA?

Do you listen to yourself rant?

I am happy that you think SWA is the end all, that means when you get there, perhaps you will drink their brand of Koolaid. Heck you are doing it even now, yet for someone to be happy at jetblue is wrong? Hmm, explain that one to me, smurf?

Blue shirts, red shirts, white shirts, like most, I couldn't care less and I am sure if SWA decide purple shirts were it, you would wear that. Heck what is with the Khaki shorts, looks like Dennys, but you know, who gives a rats.... Of course you could just go naked, I think that is what they do over there. The drunken trailer trash you will be flying, as seen on "Airline", you think they give a crap what you wear? As long as they get a cheap ticket, they don't care!

So please, grow up!

 

[GogglesPisano]

At least JetBlue doesn't require applicants to buy an Airbus type.

 

[TAZ MAN]

At least JetBlue doesn't require applicants to buy an Airbus type.

Its not a requirement. But if you want the job you better pony up the bucks. No different when you got your instrument rating.

Holding high standards is a good thing for an airline.

I don't understand why people don't also complain about the 1000 PIC turbine requirement.

 

[Dizel8]

"Its not a requirement. But if you want the job you better pony up the bucks."

Although that is a circular argument, lets not turn this into another useless PFT thread.

 

[canyonblue]

Ok, Am I the only one who has figured out this guy does not work, nor will ever work, for Southwest. Don't fall for his crap. His avatar used to be a USAirways plane and he would stir up crap about that. Could the moderator please delete his posts. I doubt he is even a pilot. Probably Lowecur's son. And GogglesPisano, shut the fu(k up!

 

[NTS ALL 4]

At least JetBlue doesn't require applicants to buy an Airbus type.

OUCH!

 

[N1atEcon]

"his revolutionary approach to building an airline." Ha Ha ha ha haaaa. If you think that this was all of his great idea's then you need to get off the koolaid.

"He be nothing but a copy cat." And we all know where he got his ideas...

The only thing I see that was his 'revolutionary" idea is having the pilots wear cargo uniforms and having Lays add some blue dye to the chips.

I see Delta is now bearing it's sights on JFK. And I believe American made some announcements to fare and route changes a few weeks ago. What is Neeleman's revolutionary approach to that? The road will only get tougher. I said it before and i will say it again. When you all went into Hartsfield it was like putting your finger in the Bee Hive. That is the heart of the south. And them folks are still peeved that you yankees won the civil war. Good luck!!!

 

[chazman]

You guys ruined another perfectly decent thread.

This has got to stop.

Chaz

 

[wndshr]

You're playing with the numbers. I can't wait to see how "successful" you'll be when your scairbuses start having mechanical problems.

By the way, love the blue uniform shirts. I just saw one of your pilots in the lobby of the hotel. Nevermind, it was the bellboy.

i assume you are a southwest employee with the avatar...or impersonating one...if you do work for swa you will learn as you gain experience in this industry not to throw stones in glass houses....you follow?

yes, your company has been on top for many years...but, it has turned into a glass house...it is no longer the concrete fortress it used to be when herb was in direct control...as we ALL know....your glass house is held intact by the superior fuel hedging that is attributed to your management. this of course is temporary and hedging contracts EXPIRE!

your product does not hold a flicker of light next to B6...so be careful about the flaming of their product. have never met a pax who likes flying IN a 737 better than a airbus...yes there are die hard "buy american product types" out there and that skews it in airbus' favor too!

one last comment about maintenance costs.......what do you think would have happened to SWA IF the feds decided to ground ALL 737s during the rudder PCU issues??????? HMMMMMM....they grounded the DC-10 for less! politics at play and SWA dodged a fatal swing.

so be careful young man about throwing stones in glass houses!

 

[firstthird]

I think that it has been discussed before that "Dave Siegel" of thecanyon blue avatar does not work for SWA. He appears to be aflame-baiter. So, please don't think he has a direct lineto Herb or Colleen or Gary, or that scheduling even has a direct lineto him for some JA action.

This board rocks, but maybe we need that big obnoxious caveat thatalways pops up on PPrune, "beware posters may not be who they appearand may even be members of the press or the exact opposite as theyportray themselves." something like that.

For instance, in real life I'm tall handsome and good-looking, but fromthis board you'd think I'm a geek loser with no life. Wait asecond, who said that?

 

[xrayojilp]

By the way, love the blue uniform shirts. I just saw one of your pilots in the lobby of the hotel.

Not to defend the blue kool-aid cult, but I remember when I first saw the southwest uniform and I thought what a dweebus dorkmeister pilot, with that funky tie, course I found out later that was the uniform! Oh and there is that whole plane color scheme, the only airline paint scheme worse than the new Southwest scheme is, well, the old Southwest scheme. Just be glad that you work for a great company. Ya'll ain't gonna win any fashion awards, lets just put it that way.

The real pimp daddies in this industry are UPS, BTW

 

[Diesel-9sRule]

You guys ruined another perfectly decent thread.

This has got to stop.

Chaz

Put the glass down and step away from the blue Kool Aid!

 

[GogglesPisano]

. And GogglesPisano, shut the fu(k up!

Sorry about hitting a raw nerve.

 

[canyonblue]

your glass house is held intact by the superior fuel hedging that is attributed to your management. this of course is temporary and hedging contracts EXPIRE!

Fuel hedging is not temporary, it is a continuous cycle. That Siegel poser is a fraud, and judging from your comment about hedges, I have doubts about your aviation experience.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Good observation!

Ok, Am I the only one who has figured out this guy does not work, nor will ever work, for Southwest. Don't fall for his crap. His avatar used to be a USAirways plane and he would stir up crap about that. Could the moderator please delete his posts. I doubt he is even a pilot. Probably Lowecur's son. And GogglesPisano, shut the fu(k up!

I was just about to point that out. He threw some mud on the B717 end-of-the-line thread, like he was some B737 expert. What a poser; he's a total tool. If he ever does make it over to SWA, I hope you guys give him a good tune-up!

If blue shirts are so bad, I guess you wouldn't have gone to work for FEDEX a few years ago either. Keep rockin' with your Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000!

Don't forget your GUMP checks!

 

[wndshr]

Fuel hedging is not temporary, it is a continuous cycle. That Siegel poser is a fraud, and judging from your comment about hedges, I have doubts about your aviation experience.

ok....you got me on symantics...you are right they are renewed in cycles, but you are crazy to think that hedging contracts will be renewed during the next set of cycles at the prices negotiated previously. that is what i meant by expire...

if swa is not taking a bath on fuel prices somebody is....and that somebody is not going to want to take another bath next round...you follow? but then again....if they (mgt) can pull it off, i bet none of them have Harvard MBA's after their name like the rest of the legacy "mgt" corps! just plain ol smarts!

sorry about spanking the siegel dude...thought he was a FNG

 

[zonker]

I used to wear a white shirt. With an ALPA pin on my tie, even.

But now.

.. the blue shirt is just awful. Every working morning I wake up, and think...why me?

It's just not fair!

 

[Dave Siegel]

I think that it has been discussed before that "Dave Siegel" of thecanyon blue avatar does not work for SWA. He appears to be aflame-baiter. So, please don't think he has a direct lineto Herb or Colleen or Gary, or that scheduling even has a direct lineto him for some JA action.

I never said I worked for Southwest. I said that I love Southwest Airlines and it's the only airline I believe is worth working for. I just hope when I get there, I don't ever have to fly with CanyonBlue. You people have no sense of humor, and Canyonblue loves to dish it out, but can't take it.

By the way, I wasn't talking about fuel hedging, I was talking about maintenace contracts. I'll keep this simple, and try to use small words, so that you can keep up.

Most airlines pay a monthy/yearly fee to a maintenance provider, like GE. The deal motivates GE to do the best job fixing your planes that the can. The fewer times the planes break, the better for GE. They get a flat fee, so their motivation is to do the very best job fixing your plane.

JetBlue doesn't have this agreement. Like I said before, since they have brand new planes, they set up a deal where they don't pay anything unless the plane breaks. Pretty good deal when you have a young fleet. Your CASM can be significantly lower than the competition because they pay fixed maintenance costs. Sound great for JB for the short term, but when the planes get older, and need more attention, their maintenance costs will wind up being SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the competition. For now, they have a cost advantage, but that advantange will disappear over the next few years.

So, for those of you who are offended, lighten up and pay attention to the points I'm making. If someone is a personal friend of canyonblue, tell him to lighten up before he gives himself an ulcer.

 

[Dave Siegel]

I was just about to point that out. He threw some mud on the B717 end-of-the-line thread, like he was some B737 expert.

I'll cut you a break, because you used to work for TWA and I had a great deal of respect for you, and because I think what AA did to you guys was completely wrong.

I was being SARCASTIC! I though airline pilots understood that, but it seems like people here are just too freaking sensitive.