Jb fo pay

[pal]

Dang, my third year as FO at Allegiant I would have made about $106,000, but then I got called for upgrade and make even more. JetBlue's FO's are making less than that with a much longer upgrade and they still voted no for the union? Why would any mainline pilot ever vote down a union if you aren't even making six figures? There are way too many cowards in this business now days.

Compare pay rates, work rules, min days off, premium pay rates, premium pay rate trigger and night override pay between JetBlue and Allegiant... Not even close. No way you can earn more for equal work and days off. While I agree a CBA is preferred, cowardice is not the reason we don't have one, but instead a difference in the way the two sides view the market, the company and ALPA'S history. Like most disagreements, both sides have valid arguments and concerns.

 

[BeachBummer]

Dang, my third year as FO at Allegiant I would have made about $106,000, but then I got called for upgrade and make even more. JetBlue's FO's are making less than that with a much longer upgrade and they still voted no for the union? Why would any mainline pilot ever vote down a union if you aren't even making six figures? There are way too many cowards in this business now days.

Pay attention!! RTFQ

We are talking about 2nd year pay. Plus when you got hired obviously things were moving at allegiant. Things were that way to at blue once.Guys were upgrading in 14-24 months here as well. You stand a much better chance at 100k third year, esspecially now that the hiring is moving along.

Your point of the union makes no sense in this conversation. Stop making me defend the no voters...

 

[labbats]

Dang, my third year as FO at Allegiant I would have made about $106,000, but then I got called for upgrade and make even more. JetBlue's FO's are making less than that with a much longer upgrade and they still voted no for the union? Why would any mainline pilot ever vote down a union if you aren't even making six figures? There are way too many cowards in this business now days.

Think how much more you could make with JetBlue work rules.

 

[airjackson]

Dang, my third year as FO at Allegiant I would have made about $106,000, but then I got called for upgrade and make even more. JetBlue's FO's are making less than that with a much longer upgrade and they still voted no for the union? Why would any mainline pilot ever vote down a union if you aren't even making six figures? There are way too many cowards in this business now days.

One of my classmates last Fall was coming from Allegiant and was soon to upgrade as well. Perhaps he had a different view??

 

[Lake Alice]

Dang, my third year as FO at Allegiant I would have made about $106,000, but then I got called for upgrade and make even more. JetBlue's FO's are making less than that with a much longer upgrade and they still voted no for the union? Why would any mainline pilot ever vote down a union if you aren't even making six figures? There are way too many cowards in this business now days.

Let's be clear on a fact you eluded to mention. Allegiant pilots refused to even vote for ALPA because management offered pay raises. You are in a much worse situation than we are.

As for the cowards in this business I believe we have our fair share.

 

[mozzer]

2007 Hire.

Year 1= 51,000 reserve all year.

Year 2= 80,000 6 months reserve, 6 months line

Year 3=110,000 3 months reserve, 9 month line....yes sold back some pto, picked up some DH/broken pairings......NOT local to jfk....yes I commute and life can suck sometimes.

Year 4= 135,000 0 reserve, lineholder.....sell pto, vacation and training month high credit low block.

Oh and I'm still home more often then I was at Mesa.

 

[Fins Up]

Year 5 F0

$102,000. ~ 15-17 Days off/month. Commute to JFK from Maine.

 

[BeachBummer]

Mozzer and Fins! Thank you.

This is what a JB FO check looks like in real life. Now if you fly for JBXpress slightly less. But that is ok, cause I'm not goin to JF'nK!:beer:

 

[Fins Up]

I guess sometimes it comes down to personal choices - where you wanna live, what you wanna fly, where you wanna be based, etc. I'm passing up the 190 CA slot in BOS for the 320 CA spot in JFK. I will have worse seniority and have to go back to commuting. I'm too lazy to learn a new airplane. Choices.

 

[BeachBummer]

Lazy has me by the juevos... I'm too lazy to commute to a better plane and schedule. I'm ready to sleep in the bed I made though.

 

[johnsonrod]

I guess sometimes it comes down to personal choices - where you wanna live, what you wanna fly, where you wanna be based, etc. I'm passing up the 190 CA slot in BOS for the 320 CA spot in JFK. I will have worse seniority and have to go back to commuting. I'm too lazy to learn a new airplane. Choices.

Not interested in the Embraer? Think about how much easier life would be with a HUD:

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/image162877.html

Just joking... :laugh::laugh: Nice picture though from your Azul brothers down south...

 

[n757st]

Not interested in the Embraer? Think about how much easier life would be with a HUD:

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/image162877.html

Just joking... :laugh::laugh: Nice picture though from your Azul brothers down south...

The EMB seems like work... I'm waaaaayyyyy too lazy to hand fly a cat 3 approach with the HUD. Best to let FIFI do the heavy lifting whilst I sip on my coffee.

 

[igneousy2]

Missed this last application window...any idea when/if another one might open up.

Also, there were open houses in the past which were a bit of a short-cut to an interview. Any such thing nowdays?

Thanks

 

[BeachBummer]

There has not been an open house in some time now. There has been no word on bringing them back that I have heard. The app window will open up when they need more quallified applicants. Could be soon, may be long time.

Wish I had better intel for ya, Good luck

 

[BentOver]

It's been pretty quiet lately on interviews... Any one getting a call from the Sept. app window? Or are they still calling from previous windows?

About to do another monthly update!!