It's official...ASA to operate UAX

[Gr82Aviate]

I kinda figured I wouldn't have to say the word Q4. I thought it was implied.

You said "turbojets"....that would not imply the Q4 since it is not a turbojet in any way, shape, or stretch of the imagination!

 

[aircombat]

I DEMAND that all further conversations about PBS for ASA on this board be discussed with the information given in two scenarios. 1st being how what is being discussed will effect the top 30%. 2nd on how it will effect the bottom 30-40%. Because most of what people with good things to say about pbs is only how it will effect the top 30. OK continue.

good point. So I guess that the real question is, is it worth increasing the QOL for 30% of the pilot group while reducing it by 30% for the other side and reducing the pilot group by 10%?

 

[BoilerUP]

Sorry guys but we've already had one pilot shortage, when you hire a lot of folks with 250 hours, it's a shortage. There was a pretty deep supply chain last time around, the next time will be different because the pipeline is dry. It may take a while, but we will back to this when the economy comes out of this next cycle.

There was no shortage of pilots then...only a shortage of pilots willing to accept the lifestyle & compensation most regional airlines offer.

A "lot" of 250hr pilots where hired, but the vast majority of them were at bottom-tier carriers and only because better-qualified pilots were seeking higher-paying positions within the industry.

 

[aircombat]

do the furloughees get to vote on PBS? If not it is no wonder why they were furloughed and it would be a shame if we as a pilot group would throw them under the bus without representation.

 

[Abernathy]

You know, 2 furloughees went on the company public board asking mgmt for paycuts "to align our costs with other regionals" so they could stay on property. Could we at least throw those morons under the bus?

 

[aircombat]

There was no shortage of pilots then...only a shortage of pilots willing to accept the lifestyle & compensation most regional airlines offer.

A "lot" of 250hr pilots where hired, but the vast majority of them were at bottom-tier carriers and only because better-qualified pilots were seeking higher-paying positions within the industry.

I agree. If you had the extra time why come to ASA when you could go to Skywest or any of the other regionals hiring back then. We have long upgrade times, we were in contract negotiations so moral was low, ATL was our only base, and we are owned by skywest.

 

[bluefin]

Good news for you guys, finally. I hope this agreement expands in the future to get the furloughs back onboard.

So, one more step in the right direction. How about we start a conversation about merging before Inc. forces the issue?

Do you mean the 1400+ furloughed UAL pilots you all helped to put on the street?

 

[crj567]

Sorry guys but we've already had one pilot shortage, when you hire a lot of folks with 250 hours, it's a shortage. There was a pretty deep supply chain last time around (after the furloughs are back at some airline) the next time will be different because the training pipeline is dry. It may take a while, but we will be back to this when the economy comes out of this current cycle.

Not when CABOTAGE begins....

-It is coming-count on it.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Do you mean the 1400+ furloughed UAL pilots you all helped to put on the street?

That was my fault. Sorry.

 

[buscap]

Do you mean the 1400+ furloughed UAL pilots you all helped to put on the street?

Screw those guys!!!

They wouldn't hire me, so screw em!!!!

 

[bluefin]

That was my fault. Sorry.

SJS for peanut wages, its your fault. Now your letting your own management shove health care up your ^&* just like UAL... so they can save money and be competitive.

 

[aircombat]

SJS for peanut wages, its your fault. Now your letting your own management shove health care up your ^&* just like UAL... so they can save money and be competitive.

I don't remember voting on scope. RJ's were going to happen just because you would rather be furloughed then live with the shame of flying an RJ isn't our fault.

 

[LazyLightnin']

SJS for peanut wages, its your fault. Now your letting your own management shove health care up your ^&* just like UAL... so they can save money and be competitive.

Yeah.. my bad.

 

[SLUF4]

Yeah Lightnin-you brought down the whole industry haha

 

[Dubya]

SJS for peanut wages, its your fault. Now your letting your own management shove health care up your ^&* just like UAL... so they can save money and be competitive.

Hey, dumbass, YOUR 5th grade english teacher is on line 2...she would like to know which one of these you think is incorrect.

Meanwhile, YOUR G.E.D. is revoked.

 

[Bako Cap]

Hey Bluefin,

Actually, I would love for UAL furloughs to be back online at UAL and if not, back in my aircraft through our J4J agreement. I flew with some good pilots last time around and would welcome them again. I have many friends that are in the 1400 boat (many elsewhere also) and think about them often.

I never wanted to fly an RJ. Over a decade ago, I wanted to work for UAL, but your guys sold me out when they allowed UAL painted aircraft to be flown by anyone else but mainline pilots. Sellout=furloughs=no jobs at the majors. You are pointing your finger in the wrong direction.

BTW, I am getting on the "LazyLightnin' did it" bandwagon. You should also because you can not handle the real reason 1400 UAL pilots are on the street.

 

[Bako Cap]

Oops, I forgot to add Tilton onto the reasons 1400 pilots are on furlough at UAL. My goodness he is terrible

 

[CaribPilot]

:laugh: :laugh: @ Skywest being the reason for United furloughs.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Brad's memo is now out

Just hook him up with some aces, you will love it!
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

yup
integration = days that the company can assign trips that you did not bid on
PBS = the whole month they can assign trips that you may not like in order to make you more "efficient".

yes I know you get to request certain parameters but really you are giving them all of the control.

You are giving them all control, the "C" is company needs and will be used liberally there, like it is here at SKYW. And oh it will be the leftover dregs that no one, even reserves want.
Got 2 of those beauties, 2 day trips at daily min pay tacked on to the end of 4 day trips, and I bid fairly high on my list.
PBS blows chunks, you will hate it, most of us do.
PBR