It seems some USAPA leaders might be nervous about Arbitration...

[General Lee]

Would anyone sign up for "non-binding" arbitration? Nope.

Anyone who signs on the dotted line for binding arbitration and then disagrees with the outcome is a complete hypocrite. They knew what they were signing up for and they believed the outcome would be different at the time. The inconvenient truth HURTS and I hope the new arbitration panel and APA pilots understand the implications of supporting USAPA's denial of this signed agreement - it is a bigger issue than just this seniority scramble.

I agree. I have a feeling all parties signing on the dotted line back then thought they were signing "binding" arbitration. But then......they didn't like the result..... Too bad.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[St. Nic]

I agree. I have a feeling all parties signing on the dotted line back then thought they were signing "binding" arbitration. But then......they didn't like the result..... Too bad.



Bye Bye---General Lee

The scum arbiTRAITOR was biased. And senile. That's how we got such a screwed up decision and why it is being litigated ten years later! Because it was a screwed up decision!!!

 

[get2flyin]

The scum arbiTRAITOR was biased. And senile. That's how we got such a screwed up decision and why it is being litigated ten years later! Because it was a screwed up decision!!!

Be honest...You're a West pilot who just says crazy, inflammatory stuff to stir the pot, right?

 

[General Lee]

The scum arbiTRAITOR was biased. And senile. That's how we got such a screwed up decision and why it is being litigated ten years later! Because it was a screwed up decision!!!

Your side picked him too. You had the chance to leave him out of your choices, but you didn't. Your MEC chair actually praised him prior, saying he would do it fairly. He listened to both sides, and then asked your side to do better, to negotiate with the West because what you were stating about DOH wasn't gonna fly, literally. Sorry, your excuses mean squat. You and your side are sore losers and the next group of 3 arbitrators (the first set) will understand the West's arguments, and then it will get interesting. Why wouldn't they? Would they rule against an award from one of their own? That would undermine their own authority. What other assurances do arbitrators need these days? To look behind each parties' backs to see if they are crossing their fingers? Signing the bottom line should mean it is "binding."



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

From the NIC award:

"Beyond this, at the time of the merger announcement, US Airways had a significant number of pilots on furlough while America West had none. Moreover, the financial future of US Airways was not comparable to or as bright as that of America West. These factors, as could be predicted, led to great differences In the Parties' concepts of a fair and equitable merger."


Can you debate that St.Nicky? Nope.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[TWA Dude]

You're a West pilot who just says crazy, inflammatory stuff to stir the pot, right?

I was wondering the same thing. Regardless, the way treat trolls is to ignore them. It seem some here just can't resist the temptation...

 

[Green]

I'm just glad I will have a place on the AA list someday. After multiple drug running convictions and my stack of DUI's I figured AWA was the best I could ever hope for.

 

[get2flyin]

I'm just glad I will have a place on the AA list someday. After multiple drug running convictions and my stack of DUI's I figured AWA was the best I could ever hope for.

And I was just slapping my brothers in Charlotte on the back saying how great it was to be at AA after wrecking so many aircraft...then we compared our up skirt pedophilia photos and arrest records before I headed out to the aircraft to waste as much fuel as possible and see how badly we could damage the company's on time performance.

Wow, being jerks while hiding our identity IS fun! Lol

 

[Dornier 335]

GL,

I am very disappointed! I crafted the USAPA Love Thread with you in mind. What happened? It would have been a beautiful 100+ page thread. Care to ask the mod if he can merge those two?

 

[ALGFLYR]

And I was just slapping my brothers in Charlotte on the back saying how great it was to be at AA after wrecking so many aircraft...

It really shows what kind of person you are by bringing up accidents at US Air like your thumping your chest as if it could never happen to you or any West pilot. Crew members and passengers lost their lives and you make it out to be some sort of joke. Pathetic really. You have no respect for this profession. Be sure to bring up all the accidents AA has had and tell them how it could never happen to you. I'm sure they will take it well...

 

[get2flyin]

It really shows what kind of person you are by bringing up accidents at US Air like your thumping your chest as if it could never happen to you or any West pilot. Crew members and passengers lost their lives and you make it out to be some sort of joke. Pathetic really. You have no respect for this profession. Be sure to bring up all the accidents AA has had and tell them how it could never happen to you. I'm sure they will take it well...

Now I feel all ashamed and embarrassed. Please forgive me. (Eye roll)

 

[OARfan]

And I was just slapping my brothers in Charlotte on the back saying how great it was to be at AA after wrecking so many aircraft...then we compared our up skirt pedophilia photos and arrest records before I headed out to the aircraft to waste as much fuel as possible and see how badly we could damage the company's on time performance.

Wow, being jerks while hiding our identity IS fun! Lol

It's pretty cool when a west crew tries to ******************** over an east crew by leaving a bunch of switches in the wrong place. As a 2013 hire, I had a neutral stance on the issue. Now I'm a little pissed. Someone tried to ******************** me over in the cockpit and I had nothing to do with this stuff. What a bunch of unprofessional jackass's. ON BOTH SIDES!

 

[get2flyin]

It's pretty cool when a west crew tries to ******************** over an east crew by leaving a bunch of switches in the wrong place. As a 2013 hire, I had a neutral stance on the issue. Now I'm a little pissed. Someone tried to ******************** me over in the cockpit and I had nothing to do with this stuff. What a bunch of unprofessional jackass's. ON BOTH SIDES!

Regardless of part of the company you are compartmentalized into, if you find an aircraft that's been tampered with, contact your chief pilot immediately and file a report. West, East, or otherwise, if somebody compromises safety by messing with an aircraft, they should be terminated. No "if"s, no "and"s, no "but"s. That's MY stance on the issue.

 

[OARfan]

Regardless of part of the company you are compartmentalized into, if you find an aircraft that's been tampered with, contact your chief pilot immediately and file a report. West, East, or otherwise, if somebody compromises safety by messing with an aircraft, they should be terminated. No "if"s, no "and"s, no "but"s. That's MY stance on the issue.

Just happened to me this morning. Captain did just what you said. CP said nothing he can do. So everyone...feel free to sabotage the aircraft without consequences. This has to be an isolated incident, I would like to believe. I wish people would leave the bickering to FI, and out of the cockpit.

 

[Green]

And I was just slapping my brothers in Charlotte on the back saying how great it was to be at AA after wrecking so many aircraft...then we compared our up skirt pedophilia photos and arrest records before I headed out to the aircraft to waste as much fuel as possible and see how badly we could damage the company's on time performance.

Wow, being jerks while hiding our identity IS fun! Lol

I'm a west pilot. My post was a joke in response to St Nic's idiotic rant.

As for intentionally sabotaging a plane i would hope that's not true. I can't imagine a professional pilot would put a plane full of pax in jeopardy over a personal vendetta. If they did I would hope they get their license pulled ASAP. Sad.