It now Official ASA will Shrink by 130 Jobs

[Smacktard]

So now what do you ALPAites have to say for yourselves. You are going make ASA shrink. 120-140 people will be out of work because you can't take the ALPA blinders off your overinflated heads.

That's quite an assumption you're jumping to. Obvisouly it is a complicated matter, the negotiations, and to jump so whole heartedly to one side makes it pretty apparent that your intentions aren't what you're making them out to be (as a pilot against the union position). That's not to say that you can't be a pilot and not agree with the union, but you've taken such extreme positions as to completely blow that argument out of the water.

I suspect you're just in here goading people for the pleasure. If you are a pilot, I can't imagine why you'd go to such extremes unless you have some serious issues that only you can understand. And if you're in the GO or some other part of the company (aside from flying the line) then you're doing more damage to your cause than you realize, you're promoting the distrust the plagues this place and makes managment's position that much more ridiculous.​

I've read most of your 70 or so posts and aside from bogus claims, you shower us with weak statements and simplistic arguments that an 8th grader could more logically put forth. You are good at one thing though, you get people to break down and resort to name calling. It doesn't help either side though, and as I stated above, it only discredits managment. So I guess it's time to put my first member into the ignore list, see ya SK.​

 

[HoserASA]

All because the ALPAites think that the CRJ 200 and 700 are 2 different types of airplanes when they are almost identical.

Kooter, from what I understand, the 700 is really a different airplane than the 200. There are a certain number of 'differences' that are allowed by the FAA before a particular aircraft would require a different type rating. The 700 somehow "managed" to have almost the maximum amount of differences, but slid in under that amount. Therefore, a different type wasn't required. This from an IP.

Hoser

 

[Bizjet]

130 Pilot positions will be lost and due to the fact that we are not losing those 20 a month that I keep hearing about then there will have to be furloughs anyone not on the ALPA teet can see that.

Kind of sucks being junior doesn't it SPORT!

 

[www.]

wow 20 a month, if that were the case then there would be 20 new Capatin slots open per month but I have seen 5 at the most per month usually none. You must get your "facts" from alpa. ASA will furlough and Alpa will be to blame because they don't know how to negotiate. Shouldn't been so greedy in 02 and 03 trying to wait for the industry wage to go up and maybe we would have a contract now and not have all our planes and jobs going to Skywest.

No the 20 came from Tutt and Bryan.

It's not the line pilots job to hire and fire. Let them run the Company, you just worry about flying the airplane.

PS. You never did respond to the invite to talk to your fellow pilots in the crew lounge.

 

[www.]

Name calling, thats a pretty typical debating tactic that the thug mentality has and thats what ALPA is a group of white collar thugs. Just like all unions who are nothing more than the mafia.

You watch too many movies.

 

[shamrock]

......Tutt and Bryan.

Let them run the Company..........

That's a scarier thought than any of the possibilities in Charlie's letter.

 

[www.]

See this people? This is what Alpa has to offer. This is why we are not respected by managment because if the unprofessionalism of the union workers.

No, we do not respect management. They have lied for years, violated the contract etc... But the bigger point is, we do not respect you Super Kooter.

 

[PCL_128]

Tell me is there a way I can't keep my 2% of my pay that alpa robs me of? Or do I have to give them my money aggainst my will?

No, you can always quit. Something tells me that most of your coworkers would be quite pleased with that.

 

[CRJ Skillz]

So now what do you ALPAites have to say for yourselves. You are going make ASA shrink. 120-140 people will be out of work because you can't take the ALPA blinders off your overinflated heads.

There WILL be a paycut on the 70 or ASA WILL lose all of them and even more jobs.

Think about your actions and how it will affect people. A large amount of people may find themselves on the street because of your Lack of Common Sense.

I just hope that strike vote will be a weak showing. I will vote NO and I know many other people will also vote NO. If you lemmings do decide to "Burn The MUTHA DOWN" then JA will shrink ASA into nothingness as it probably should at least ALPA will be gone. ASA days are numbered and its because of the selfish MEC.

Hey i've got an Idea maybe you clowns can walk around like fool in your uniforms (with hat on of course) infront of the ASA building. Thats worked so will in the past.

Well, at least I wont be out of a job and 120-140 dumb FO's I dont have to put up with:beer:

Cheers!

 

[buscap]

Mr. Tutt,

I am very proud to work for ASA. I want to work here and I will do all I can to make ASA the best in the business, but...the company must do their part and right now they are not.

We have put up with years of contract abuse and quality of life erosion without any good reason. The things the company does to violate our current contract don't even result in increased productivity. They only temporarily cover up problems created by administrative errors and failure to lead.

Obviously this contarct is not only about compensation and from what I have seen the quality of life improvements in the matched sections are abysmal. With this in mind and thanks to your letter, things are about to change.

Up until now I have been the Union's worst nightmare. I'm that idiot you've seen running upstairs to get the release. I'm that idiot doing 4 degree descents. I'm that idiot who taxis single engine. I'm that idiot who spent the winter not running the APU at Fuel Conservation stations. I'm that idiot on my cell phone, while resetting computers in the avionics bay. I'm that idiot who helps grandma off the plane. I'm that idiot who brings broken airplanes back to Atlanta when I could've broke it at the outstation. I'm that idiot on the radio doing other people's jobs. I'm that idiot who makes things run despite everyone else not caring.

I'm that idiot who takes pride in my job despite the continual contract abuses and contract erosion. I'm that idiot who didn't want to go on strike.

Well Mr. Tutt, thank you. Thank you for showing me what an idiot I am. And please rest assured, Mr. Tutt, knowing that I am much smarter now and will do my job in a much more intelligent manner.

Yours truly,
One of your Captains

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Leave the name calling aside and face the facts. Yes, we are loosing some pilots every month, however if we don't swap out the CR7 for CR9 we will have a net lose of 13 a/c. The SLC CR7 drivers are going to have to bid back to ATL. Worst case scenerio, not enough guys leave and there will be furloughs. There is not an accurate way to forecast how many pilots will leave 3-5 months down the road. If 20 are leaving per month great, but that number is not in stone...

 

[AviatorTx]

Kooter, I don't have a dog in ASA's fight, but this level of thinking has me peeved.

You'd fly 20 more passengers for the same pathetic wage you're getting now? Don't you want a cut of that?

If the answer is yes, then you need to support your Negotiations Committee.

If the answer is no, I'd also strongly suggest applying to Skywest. They fly everything at 50 seat rates.

Let me show you this another way. Continental is the only legacy airline hiring right now, and I'm sure you'd love to get hired there.

They fly B737-700's, -800's, -900's. Those are what's called B737 Next Generation. Same training for all three. I think the -900 has an extra fan switch. Yet, look at the pay difference between the -700 which they classify as a small narrowbody and -800/-900 which they classify as a large narrowbody.

To sum it up, I think you're out of line pal.

BRAVO!!!! Very well said.

Good luck my ASA brothers.

 

[COOPERVANE]

I am asking because I don't know, not to prove a point.

The current agreement with Delta/ASA/Skywest? requires 80% of all Delta feeder flying to be performed by ASA. This has been pointed out numerous times by those saying that Skywest can't shrink/take ASA flying from ATL.

My question is this: Is Atkin smart enough to get around this agreement, and has this been his plan all along? No way he could hire/train 2000 pilots to fly ATL if we all walked, but what if he takes it 10-20 planes at a time? Once he has most/all of ATL flying he can advise his pilots of his need to lower pay by 20% or find another job.

Either ASA is bluffing, or we are shrinking, either way I will not vote for a contract that reduces our pay. At least I can say I didn't cave if they end up taking us out anyway!!

 

[captjim]

So now what do you ALPAites have to say for yourselves. You are going make ASA shrink. 120-140 people will be out of work because you can't take the ALPA blinders off your overinflated heads.

There WILL be a paycut on the 70 or ASA WILL lose all of them and even more jobs.

Think about your actions and how it will affect people. A large amount of people may find themselves on the street because of your Lack of Common Sense.

I just hope that strike vote will be a weak showing. I will vote NO and I know many other people will also vote NO. If you lemmings do decide to "Burn The MUTHA DOWN" then JA will shrink ASA into nothingness as it probably should at least ALPA will be gone. ASA days are numbered and its because of the selfish MEC.

Hey i've got an Idea maybe you clowns can walk around like fool in your uniforms (with hat on of course) infront of the ASA building. Thats worked so will in the past.

Sounds like the ideal Mesa pilot! Grow a pair and fight for what you're worth and stop running scared, you are behaving like a child.

 

[Papa Woody]

Mr. Tutt,

I am very proud to work for ASA. I want to work here and I will do all I can to make ASA the best in the business, but...the company must do their part and right now they are not.

We have put up with years of contract abuse and quality of life erosion without any good reason. The things the company does to violate our current contract don't even result in increased productivity. They only temporarily cover up problems created by administrative errors and failure to lead.

Obviously this contarct is not only about compensation and from what I have seen the quality of life improvements in the matched sections are abysmal. With this in mind and thanks to your letter, things are about to change.

Up until now I have been the Union's worst nightmare. I'm that idiot you've seen running upstairs to get the release. I'm that idiot doing 4 degree descents. I'm that idiot who taxis single engine. I'm that idiot who spent the winter not running the APU at Fuel Conservation stations. I'm that idiot on my cell phone, while resetting computers in the avionics bay. I'm that idiot who helps grandma off the plane. I'm that idiot who brings broken airplanes back to Atlanta when I could've broke it at the outstation. I'm that idiot on the radio doing other people's jobs. I'm that idiot who makes things run despite everyone else not caring.

I'm that idiot who takes pride in my job despite the continual contract abuses and contract erosion. I'm that idiot who didn't want to go on strike.

Well Mr. Tutt, thank you. Thank you for showing me what an idiot I am. And please rest assured, Mr. Tutt, knowing that I am much smarter now and will do my job in a much more intelligent manner.

Yours truly,
One of your Captains

Perfect!

DITTO!