is this guy a fraud???

[RichardRambone]

Theres only one question you have to ask him to determine if hes a pilot. Ask him the weight of his fuel. Thats it. I saw the same thing on Dateline where a guy was posing as a Navy pilot and was dating this girl whose dad asked him that very question and he didn't know. He ended up being a fraud and murdering someone so RUN LIKE HELL!!

 

[FN FAL]

You and your girlfriend are commercial pilots, working on your CFI, and between the two of you you can not come up with some questions to see if this guy is a poser?

That's the crux of the buscuit...combined, they probably possess barely enough aeronautical knowledge to pose a danger to themselves and society...so how could they be knowlegable enough to de-pose a poser?

 

[Huggyu2]

"I believe it is a federal offense to impersonate a military officer."

Uh oh. That can't be good for the Air Force folks.

So how many years as a military officer do you have, Mr Flamebait?

 

[Caveman]

Lighten up Francis. It was a joke. Ya know, a little inter-service rivalry. Fury 220 managed to figure it out.

 

[viper548]

I believe the engines on the 141 are pure TURBOJET. Ask if they are high-bypass turbofan. Ask if it has slats (I don't think it does). Ask to see his ID card, he should be O-1 or O-2. Post a pic of this poser when you prove him wrong

 

[NYCPilot]

There was this private pilot working on his instrument who would always show up to the flight school in a flight suit. He had nothing to do with the military and scored less than an 80 on his written after like 2-3 tries. Who knows what he told others while he wasn't on the premises.

You should invite him out to go do some partial panel localizer holds into approches. See how much of a pilot he is then.

 

[viper548]

There was this private pilot working on his instrument who would always show up to the flight school in a flight suit. He had nothing to do with the military and scored less than an 80 on his written after like 2-3 tries. Who knows what he told others while he wasn't on the premises.

You should invite him out to go do some partial panel localizer holds into approches. See how much of a pilot he is then.

The military is big into the Attitude Indicator, if you failed it, he'd probably want to eject

 

[QuasarZ]

Any updates yet? real or fake?

 

[414Flyer]

I believe the engines on the 141 are pure TURBOJET. Ask if they are high-bypass turbofan. Ask if it has slats (I don't think it does). Ask to see his ID card, he should be O-1 or O-2. Post a pic of this poser when you prove him wrong

C-141 is a low bypass turbofan I think. IL-76 is turbojet I believe though.

On a similar note, when I worked security for a biker rally over memorial day weekend, one of the guys i worked with mentioned being ex-navy, I cant remember the job title he was, but it sounded like it was the navy equivalent of the USAF enlisted air combat controller. On memorial day, he wore his hat from the Coral Sea with a few medals on it. I asked a few questions about his service, and where he served, sounded legit to me. Its not too hard to pick out a fake, some places he mentioned were various middle eastern countries, and then he made a comment about some cold war locations he could not mention.

What was interesting, was someone came up to him while I was there, and asked him "Are you ex SF? " (special forces). Maybe the bald head, big body and wrap around sunglasses gave it away, but still cool how those types can pick another out of a crowd.

 

[Almerick07]

If he is enlisted chances are he will know quite a bit of this information, even about the airplane. Just ask a BS aviation question like, "So how many ILS's do you use while on climb out? I only use 2 in my cessna but am dying to know about bigger airplanes like the 141!"

If worst comes to worst just call him out in front of everyone and see his reaction, it should give a pretty good indicator.

 

[phil]

You all need to give the answers to the questions because these guys don't know them them either, that's why they posted here.


Also, the questions need to be something the girl who knows nothing about aviation can pull off, and as Almerick07 said, something an enlisted guy won't know.

 

[FN FAL]

Lighten up Francis. It was a joke. Ya know, a little inter-service rivalry. Fury 220 managed to figure it out.

Isn't it funny how the airforce guys can't take the guff.

The coasties can take it, the dog faces can take it, the jarheads and swabies can take it...but pick on an usaf guy and they go running for mommies skirt right away.

 

[AGuyThatFlys]

Any of these will trip you to the fact that this is a MAJOR POSER, who should be drawn and quartered (BTW, what exactly does that mean??), and then run out of town on a rail.

To draw and quarter: Execute someone by tying a horse to each limb, and having all four horses pull simultaneously.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/draw%20and%20quarter

 

[Partridge]

FN-FAL said:

That's the crux of the buscuit...combined, they probably possess barely enough aeronautical knowledge to pose a danger to themselves and society...so how could they be knowlegable enough to de-pose a poser?

Well, I surely would have been able to that in those days: just pretend you and your girlfriend have an argument about holding pattern entries.

Something along the lines: "Say, Bubba (or whatever his name is), you are appoaching the VOR on a heading of 170 degrees and you have to hold on the 200 degree radial, right turns. What entry into the hold do you suppose we should take?"

This is clear navigational knowledge, nothing about weight or engines of the plane he flies. Remember, he could have looked it up and memorized it. No way a poser could know the above question.

 

[viper548]

FN-FAL said:

That's the crux of the buscuit...combined, they probably possess barely enough aeronautical knowledge to pose a danger to themselves and society...so how could they be knowlegable enough to de-pose a poser?

Well, I surely would have been able to that in those days: just pretend you and your girlfriend have an argument about holding pattern entries.

Something along the lines: "Say, Bubba (or whatever his name is), you are appoaching the VOR on a heading of 170 degrees and you have to hold on the 200 degree radial, right turns. What entry into the hold do you suppose we should take?"

This is clear navigational knowledge, nothing about weight or engines of the plane he flies. Remember, he could have looked it up and memorized it. No way a poser could know the above question.

Anyone halfway through instrument training would know that.

Ask to see his squadron coin. If he doesn't have it on him, he's full of $h!t