is this guy a fraud???

[FN FAL]

Ask to see his ID card.

Good advice, but why waste the time?

 

[Huggyu2]

Ask where he got his commission: ROTC, OTS (officer training school), or the Academy
Where did he go for UPT
Where did he go for C-141 training (I thought the C-141 was pretty much gone).
If he's got wings on his nametag, ask him what the difference is between pilot, nav, and enlisted aircrew wings.
Ask him when the phase out for the C-141 is and what happens to him then (I believe all the active duty C-141 units are going to the C-17)
What squadron is he in: get back to us with the answer.
What rank is he (does he have a single gold or silver bar on each shoulder, or something else). If he has nothing on his shoulders, he could be enlisted aircrew; another way to tell is to look at his hat: if it is plain blue, he's enlisted aircrew. If he's got an officer's hat, it will have a silver threaded edge to the top, plus his rank will be on the hat.

Graduate college, wait a few months, 1 year of UPT, 4-5 months more before you graduate from C-141 school. 22 years old? I'm guessing he's either a fraud or enlisted aircrew (like a loadmaster or flight engineer)

Now, watch him squirm.

 

[NookyBooky]

Just make poo poo in his coffee and get it over with.

 

[Caveman]

"I believe it is a federal offense to impersonate a military officer."

Uh oh. That can't be good for the Air Force folks.

 

[say again]

my girlfriend's friend has been dating a guy who claims to be a c141 pilot for the airforce. now me and my girlfriend are both comm. rated pilots working on our CFI's...so her friend has been asking us specific questions about this guys because she has a strong feeling he's NOT a pilot. he ALWAYS wears a pilot jump suit...i mean ALWAYS. any time he is in public he is wearing it...never seen him without it. he is 22, 5 feet tall and maybe 120 pounds. he appears to have no interest in airplanes-doesn't talk about them or even look up in the sky when on passes overhead. did i mention he ALWAYS wears a jump suit????
i did a quick check on line and found the min height requirment for the airforce to be about 5'4". any military guys help here....could a 22yr old be a pilot (co-pilot??) for a c141? isn't 5' too short?? is it common for military guys to never take off their jumpsuits-even on dates, movies, mall, dinner??? if a big jet or loud planes flys over head...neither me or my g-friend can help but look up...like an instinct...isn't that common for people who have an interest in planes...ie airforce pilots??? any trick questions she could ask that would make or break the case???

He sounds like he's a CAP cadet who goes along for rides and just trying to make himself feel important !!!!!! I'm sure we've all seen them wondering the airports with their high military rankings!!!!!

 

[Fury220]

"I believe it is a federal offense to impersonate a military officer."

Uh oh. That can't be good for the Air Force folks.

ZING!

 

[Partridge]

You and your girlfriend are commercial pilots, working on your CFI, and between the two of you you can not come up with some questions to see if this guy is a poser?

 

[Snakum]

Well in the long run it turned out that he was a big ol'e fraud just using her for money and some loving.

Haaaaay ... wait a minute, the problem with this is ... what exactly?

Minh

 

[polysciguy9]

Funny you should mention CAP guys ... the FBO I go to has a ton of them - mostly older guys who couldn't meet the vision/height/weight requirements to fly USAF. I noticed the other day that one of the CFI's was wearing his CAP flight suit while debriefing a student after their dual flight. There was a funny thread up here a few weeks ago when people were talking about pilots wearing their uniform in public. One guy had mentioned a first time PPL student wearing a flight suit and military helmet to his first lesson. I nearly lost it when I saw this CFI climb out of a 152 in his Nomex. Freakin' hillarious. And no, it wasn't a CAP flight.

 

[sky37d]

You and your girlfriend are commercial pilots, working on your CFI, and between the two of you you can not come up with some questions to see if this guy is a poser?

Yeah, just ask him, like, so what's the stall speed on that 141?? Man, those engines look huge, how much thrust?? What's fuel flow at normal cruise?? Oh, hey, are those things pressurized?? I see them with the doors open, just wondered.

Any of these will trip you to the fact that this is a MAJOR POSER, who should be drawn and quartered (BTW, what exactly does that mean??), and then run out of town on a rail.

 

[RichardRambone]

Theres only one question you have to ask him to determine if hes a pilot. Ask him the weight of his fuel. Thats it. I saw the same thing on Dateline where a guy was posing as a Navy pilot and was dating this girl whose dad asked him that very question and he didn't know. He ended up being a fraud and murdering someone so RUN LIKE HELL!!

 

[FN FAL]

You and your girlfriend are commercial pilots, working on your CFI, and between the two of you you can not come up with some questions to see if this guy is a poser?

That's the crux of the buscuit...combined, they probably possess barely enough aeronautical knowledge to pose a danger to themselves and society...so how could they be knowlegable enough to de-pose a poser?

 

[Huggyu2]

"I believe it is a federal offense to impersonate a military officer."

Uh oh. That can't be good for the Air Force folks.

So how many years as a military officer do you have, Mr Flamebait?

 

[Caveman]

Lighten up Francis. It was a joke. Ya know, a little inter-service rivalry. Fury 220 managed to figure it out.

 

[viper548]

I believe the engines on the 141 are pure TURBOJET. Ask if they are high-bypass turbofan. Ask if it has slats (I don't think it does). Ask to see his ID card, he should be O-1 or O-2. Post a pic of this poser when you prove him wrong

 

[NYCPilot]

There was this private pilot working on his instrument who would always show up to the flight school in a flight suit. He had nothing to do with the military and scored less than an 80 on his written after like 2-3 tries. Who knows what he told others while he wasn't on the premises.

You should invite him out to go do some partial panel localizer holds into approches. See how much of a pilot he is then.

 

[viper548]

There was this private pilot working on his instrument who would always show up to the flight school in a flight suit. He had nothing to do with the military and scored less than an 80 on his written after like 2-3 tries. Who knows what he told others while he wasn't on the premises.

You should invite him out to go do some partial panel localizer holds into approches. See how much of a pilot he is then.

The military is big into the Attitude Indicator, if you failed it, he'd probably want to eject

 

[QuasarZ]

Any updates yet? real or fake?

 

[414Flyer]

I believe the engines on the 141 are pure TURBOJET. Ask if they are high-bypass turbofan. Ask if it has slats (I don't think it does). Ask to see his ID card, he should be O-1 or O-2. Post a pic of this poser when you prove him wrong

C-141 is a low bypass turbofan I think. IL-76 is turbojet I believe though.

On a similar note, when I worked security for a biker rally over memorial day weekend, one of the guys i worked with mentioned being ex-navy, I cant remember the job title he was, but it sounded like it was the navy equivalent of the USAF enlisted air combat controller. On memorial day, he wore his hat from the Coral Sea with a few medals on it. I asked a few questions about his service, and where he served, sounded legit to me. Its not too hard to pick out a fake, some places he mentioned were various middle eastern countries, and then he made a comment about some cold war locations he could not mention.

What was interesting, was someone came up to him while I was there, and asked him "Are you ex SF? " (special forces). Maybe the bald head, big body and wrap around sunglasses gave it away, but still cool how those types can pick another out of a crowd.

 

[Almerick07]

If he is enlisted chances are he will know quite a bit of this information, even about the airplane. Just ask a BS aviation question like, "So how many ILS's do you use while on climb out? I only use 2 in my cessna but am dying to know about bigger airplanes like the 141!"

If worst comes to worst just call him out in front of everyone and see his reaction, it should give a pretty good indicator.