Is NetJets a career place?

[AirBear8]

I worked for US Airways and will pass on recall when it probably comes later this year. My friend who talked me into coming to NetJets got his recall letter last week but is passing. This even thou our pay at Airways would be $88K/yr or more compared to 50K or so at NJ right now. In the long run NJ is a lot more stable, has tons better quality of life if you don't mind 7 day trips, better benefits, and will pay as much as Captains make at Airways after we've been here 5 years. There are quite a few ex-Airways pilots at NJ, I'll be shocked if any of them go back.

AirBear

 

[Falcon Jet 1]

What are your drinking limitations at netjets?

 

[V1 Rotate]

Hey guys, I appreciate everyone's input to this thread. It's been of great assistance. I will probably be submitting my resume soon. I'm still curious though about any jumpseat privileges or Interline Discounts. Does NJA qualify for any of these? Also, is the company assigning crewbases or are you allowed to pick where you'd like to go?

 

[netjetwife]

You can always ask for the domicile city (1 of 5) of your choice, but it is up to the company whether or not you get it. From what I've read on the NJ message board, jumpseating seems to be uncommon. That is understandable when you remind yourself that the lack of reciprocation reduces the motivation to give a lift to frac pilots. Good Luck on the hiring process, V1.
Netjetwife

PS An update for those who know of my personal battle for justice: Interviews are a sore subject with me today. It's commonly accepted that innocent people talk but the guilty won't. The interrogation we've been waiting for has been put on hold. If you're thinking what I'm thinking, you're right!

 

[Fozzy]

What are your drinking limitations at netjets?

When you fall off the bar stool, you have reached your limit.:beer:

12 hours bottle to show/go, or something like that. We are like the Clinton Admin. Don't ask, don't tell.

 

[Seat 0A]

Here’s another slant on NJA from the perspective of an actual NJA pilot:

I DO NOT commute. I fly from home. My travel is company paid positive space travel and I keep the airline miles. This also means that my first and last days involve very little work. I have elite status on 4 carriers and ride First Class often (remember that I am on duty at this point as well).

We are briefed no later than 7pm the night before day-1 and it cannot change and we cannot be contacted.

I have 3 weeks vacation per year (which is really 9 weeks). I also have 3 weeks of paid training per year so now I am down to “working” 20 tours per year. I could knock this down to 18 tours by using up my sick leave each year.

Now, if you take 18 weeks and conservatively figure 6 days per tour of work (one day less than 7 due to airlines on day-1 and day-7). This is a fair comparison because the airline guys are not counting their commuting days only the duty days.

That equals 108 days of line flying per year or 9 days per month. How does that compare to airlines? Oh yeah, I have 4 weeks vacation at year 10 (actually 12 weeks) that will drop it down even more.

I have never flown more than 450 hours a year here in 6 years.

I am NEVER away from home on my “off” days like many 121 guys are (commuting). If they don’t get me home by the end of my last scheduled day then the economic penalty to the company makes for a VERY nice Xmas at my house. I also “comp off” those hours returned home late from the beginning of my next tour.

Base pay in the neighborhood of $100k at year 5.
If you are young you can look forward to a base pay of $200k (or $240k in the BBJ). I am currently earning another 15-20% over base pay with “normal” overtime. I DO NOT volunteer for any extra but it is there if you want it. Also I AM NOT on the reserve payscale which is a fair amount better.

401k 50% match, insurance fully paid by company, around $8k tax free per-diem in your pocket each year (we don’t buy food here).

We DO NOT stay in Hotels less than Hilton quality and we keep the hotel points too.

10 hours minimum rest begins upon arrival at the HOTEL. Normally it is between 12-16 hours.

We have actual BRIEFED rest. If they shut us down at 4pm today and brief us (yes, they have to brief us before shutdown) for a Noon show tomorrow they CANNOT touch us until Noon tomorrow, no phone calls, etc.

An average day for me is 3-4 legs, 4-5 flight hours, 9-11 duty hours.
Payscales at NJA and the majors are growing towards each other at a fast rate.

So far it doesn’t seem too bad.

My .02

 

[Wankel7]

Here’s another slant on NJA from the perspective an actual NJA pilot:

I DO NOT commute. I fly from home. My travel is company paid positive space travel and I keep the airline miles. This also means that my first and last days involve very little work. I have elite status on 4 carriers and ride First Class often (remember that I am on duty at this point as well).

We are briefed no later than 7pm the night before day-1 and it cannot change and we cannot be contacted.

I have 3 weeks vacation per year (which is really 9 weeks). I also have 3 weeks of paid training per year so now I am down to “working” 20 tours per year. I could knock this down to 18 tours by using up my sick leave each year.

Now, if you take 18 weeks and conservatively figure 6 days per tour of work (one day less than 7 due to airlines on day-1 and day-7).

That equals 108 days of line flying per year or 9 days per month. How does that compare to airlines? Oh yeah, I have 4 weeks vacation at year 10 (actually 12 weeks) that will drop it down even more.

I have never flown more than 450 hours in year here in 6 years.

I am NEVER away from home on my “off” days like many 121 guys are (commuting). If they don’t get me home by the end of my last scheduled day then the economic penalty to the company will make for a VERY nice Xmas. I also “comp off” those hours returned home late from the beginning of my next tour.

Base pay in the neighborhood of $100k at year 5.
If you are young you can look forward to a base pay of $200k (or $240k in the BBJ). I am currently earning another 15-20% over base pay with “normal” overtime. I DO NOT volunteer for any extra but it is there if you want it.

401k 50% match, insurance fully paid by company, around $8k tax free per-diem in your pocket each year (we don’t buy food here).

We DO NOT stay in Hotels less than Hilton quality and we keep the hotel points too.

10 hours minimum rest begins upon arrival at the HOTEL. Normally it is between 12-16 hours.

We have actual BRIEFED rest. If they shut us down at 4pm today and brief us (yes, they have to brief us before shutdown) for a Noon show tomorrow they CANNOT touch us until Noon tomorrow, no phone calls, etc.

An average day for me is 3-4 legs, 4-5 flight hours, 9-11 duty hours.
Payscales at NJA and the majors are growing towards each other at a fast rate.

So far it doesn’t seem too bad.

My .02

Lets see I do 135 charter....I work 240 days a year....rest starts 15 after the plane lands....we rock out at the super 8 and dream of a hilton...and commute to work.

Clearly, I don't see how your deal is better than mine

Wankel

 

[Seat 0A]

Been there and done that! Except I worked about 300 days per year 135 and was expected to "fudge" duty-summaries to make a legal 10 hours.

Two things brought me to NJA;
1. Quality of Life
2. Safety

The money was never a deciding factor.

p.s. I now fly with former airline pilots who tell me time and time again that this is the absolute best gig they have had in aviation.

 

[gunfyter]

Here’s another slant on NJA from the perspective of an actual NJA pilot:



Now, if you take 18 weeks and conservatively figure 6 days per tour of work (one day less than 7 due to airlines on day-1 and day-7). This is a fair comparison because the airline guys are not counting their commuting days only the duty days.

I have never flown more than 450 hours a year here in 6 years.

10 hours minimum rest begins upon arrival at the HOTEL. Normally it is between 12-16 hours.



An average day for me is 3-4 legs, 4-5 flight hours, 9-11 duty hours.
Payscales at NJA and the majors are growing towards each other at a fast rate.


My .02

You must not be in the X fleet.

 

[buttercup]

Too much bullsh*t and intellectual dishonesty on this thread.