Is NetJets a career place?

[Hawker dude]

Stop with the name calling playboy. You obviously have no sense of that reality that you are spouting off about. FedEx and UPS now those are good contracts. Those are careers, Netjets is a job. Let me guess you either worked for a regional or you were furloughed from a major airline. Why do Major airline pilots not voluntarily leave their companies for NJA unless they are furloughed? I've seen many leave NJA for airlines though. Tell yourself whatever makes you feel good and allows you to sleep well at night.

Dude, didn't you say you work for AWA? which is actually US Airways and there stock symbol is LCC. Which stands for Low Cost Carrier. Those new 90 seat pay rates are getting me all excited on the inside.

 

[buttercup]

Sorry dude, I just saw that you were agreeing with ass214. so I assumed you were with him.

Another bad assumption just like you assumed you were making a fair wage. It's that ho mentality that has supressed wages in this industry. You deserve at least 200K a year for the job you do. Dont lowball the industry. Here's a dollar hawker dudette go buy some self-worth!!

 

[buttercup]

Dude, didn't you say you work for AWA? which is actually US Airways and there stock symbol is LCC. Which stands for Low Cost Carrier. Those new 90 seat pay rates are getting me all excited on the inside.

Another moronic assumption I never said I work for AWA can you provide a link. Now I know why you're satisfied with your wage.

 

[Mach92]

Stop with the name calling playboy. You obviously have no sense of that reality that you are spouting off about. FedEx and UPS now those are good contracts. Those are careers, Netjets is a job. Let me guess you either worked for a regional or you were furloughed from a major airline. Why do Major airline pilots not voluntarily leave their companies for NJA unless they are furloughed? I've seen many leave NJA for airlines though. Tell yourself whatever makes you feel good and allows you to sleep well at night.

Major airline pilots do leave for NJA. I have flown with at least 5 Delta guys under the age of 48 who punched out. Flew with another 18 year USAIR F/O(48 yrs old)last week. Yes they do leave. Your statement above is pure BS. Get your facts before you talk trash.

 

[Fozzy]

Sorry dude, I just saw that you were agreeing with ass214. so I assumed you were with him.

So much is lost in the written word. I guess my little roll eyes guy didn't do the job.
I was making jest of him calling the kettle black.

 

[Hawker dude]

Sorry dude, I just saw that you were agreeing with ass214. so I assumed you were with him.

guess that was xrated. you were the one that had that really impressive math formula for duty time.

 

[buttercup]

Major airline pilots do leave for NJA. I have flown with at least 5 Delta guys under the age of 48 who punched out. Flew with another 18 year USAIR F/O(48 yrs old)last week. Yes they do leave. Your statement above is pure BS. Get your facts before you talk trash.

Both of those above mentioned companies arent even hiring now. Amongst the airlines that are expanding and growin with perceived stability I see no one leaving them to come to NJA, however, I spoke to 3 NJA just the past week who collected their retro and are leaving for UPS, SWA, and Jetblue.

 

[DO-82 driver]

as214.....NetJets is somewhere between the Regionals and most of the Majors. Many people is this world can live quite comfortably in this realm.

What are you trying to prove with these posts? NetJets will never be a United, Delta or American airlines but most people have a better chance getting hired here then at those places so for them, and I include myself in that proud group, this is a career. And there certainly isn't anything wrong with it.

I certainly would leave here to go to some other 121 scheduled carriers and that includes SWA. And I have no apps out with anyone else.

Every pilot has to make their choice...some choices are more limited than other...This isn't for everyone, but for those who are cut out for it, its not a bad way to go.

 

[Diesel]

Do82 you're exactly right this job is not for everyone. It is all depends on what you want out of it. For me it's not having to commute, to have the summer off and get to use my noggin out on the road. I love the fact that I have a credit card, and the company stays off my back pretty much the whole tour. Just page in the times and you're done.

I have seen better crew food being served to the homeless but well stepping over millions to save a penny. It will end up biting them in the arse.

Do i have my stuff in with Fedex or UPS nope. I'll ride the ride and see where it takes me.

Like i said you are really asking two questions.

Oh and yes drinking before noon is very good. It's St. Patty's week remember!

 

[tk855]

Hey Diesel, it's Peterbilt.

 

[V1 Rotate]

Ok...back to my original intent of this thread. Question: I know NJA pays full health coverage for the pilots. Do they only pay for the employee or for the wife and baby's coverage too?

 

[gobucks]

The whole family gets the medical benefit. Dental coverage is excellent, too.

 

[V1 Rotate]

Very cool....that's a payraise already for me right there!

 

[Hogprint]

Just to refresh the memory...

Another bad assumption just like you assumed you were making a fair wage. It's that ho mentality that has supressed wages in this industry. You deserve at least 200K a year for the job you do. Dont lowball the industry. Here's a dollar hawker dudette go buy some self-worth!!

Everyone throttle back on 214...he just likes to come over from the Corp board and do some NJA bashing for sport! For some reason he's had an axe to grind with us for some time.

Remember 214, we were fighting our battle with one hand tied behind our backs for the better part of three years. We've now righted the ship and taken a step in the right direction. We hear you loud and clear about low balling the industry. Give us the benefit of the doubt, and some time to make some changes. All things being equal, this could become a premier aviation job.

I see you and other Corp guys make the point that there are better Corp jobs out there with better bennies and moola. Agreed. Those jobs are few and far between though. How big is your flight dept? I'm sure it is great for you and your colleagues, but how many are you hiring now? How many hired last year? Do you follow my lead?

I'm with Diesel on this. Sit back and wait. See what transpires after the dust has settled. I'm betting (and praying) that it will work out in our favor.

 

[netjetwife]

Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. Likewise, a career lies in the eyes of a pilot. If you receive professional compensation, have a reasonable amount of security (in a field that can be a gamble) and enjoy your job, it seems to me that you can rightfully call it a career. I think frac pilots are to be commended for their efforts to turn the industry into an attractive career option. They should all be able to afford to keep the job they enjoy. They are providing a professional service that needs to be treated as any other business expense by the companies they fly for. Waste and inefficiency should be dealt with appropriately, instead of trying to balance the budget on the backs of the pilots.

 

[Diesel]

arrrrrgh

 

[SCT]

Does NetJets make furloughed major pilots give up their seniority # before employment? This is semi common in the corp world.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Does NetJets make furloughed major pilots give up their seniority # before employment? This is semi common in the corp world.

None of the furloughees I've flown with have mentioned giving up their recall rights. Conversely, I've heard several furloughees say that they wouldn't be going back to the 121 world even if they were offered recall.

 

[HalinTexas]

Upgrades.

OK, the contract has been in force for a few months. How are the upgrades looking?

What is the hire date/seniority for the most junior captain online and/or in training?

I'm looking to make the jump. Future earnings is an issue.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Therhave been approx. 180 upgrades awarded since ratification. As predicted, most of the F/O's who have been around for a while are taking them and guys in smaller class planes are moving to higher class planes for the $$$$$. I guess the last upgrades were in the 1400's.

The upgrade train is going to be slowing down for a while because the sims are max'd out. Too many people to train right now.

Anyone getting hire now or in the past few months probably will not see an upgrade for at least 3 years....possibly more.