Is Gemini still hiring

[Huck]

A guy in my class at GAC got back-to-back 18 day trips right out of IOE - 36 days in a row in Africa.

When he got home his wife met him at the door and said Me or The Job. He resigned that day.

 

[Tomct]

A guy in my class at GAC got back-to-back 18 day trips right out of IOE - 36 days in a row in Africa.

When he got home his wife met him at the door and said Me or The Job. He resigned that day.

Damn Huck, that is some SERIOUS PerDiem! Hopefully that is not happening anymore. How about it Fogrunner...any input?

 

[av8tor76]

That schedule is the reason I won't be applying. How can you even contemplate having a family life? 16 days is waaaaay too long. Sure, I know that Atlas has longer trips - something like 21-25 days in a row. I note that UPS doesn't have super long trips like that but it can be impossible to get on with UPS - that's the catch.

and you get what now..??possibly 11-12 FULL days off, withstanding your commute-crashpad-hotel factored in...that 16 has the first/last day commercialing to a/c, working 14 in one shot usually factors into maybe 10-12 legs ...you're probably doing that in 1.5 days now...to each his own...

 

[metrodriver]

Fedora, 35k was first year pay on the old scale. I thought that pay was severely cut during our famous contract negotiations. I know my pay freeze is still continuing And I even voted No

 

[EMB_driver2002]

Is it possible to make more than guarantee on the MD-11 at Gemini? When you go out, are your trips all international or do you go back and forth thru the US a few times? Thanks for any info

 

[Fedora]

My latest contract shows 45 an hour first year FO pay, which should be about 35K. (45X65X12).
Year 2 bumps to 64.34 an hour. (about 50K)

Beating guarantee depends on the contracts, and right now 2 lines show better than 65. (99)
They went senior. As a new hire right now you might get some O/T for working on days off.
If you want 4 on and three off, don't apply here.
If you think every other leg gets you back to the Big Island and you'll jumpseat home, don't apply here.
I worked back to back Jan/Feb for 30 days, but after that I was off for 31. Try that at a regional.
BTW Rod, how much of the world are you getting to see flying four to six legs a day?
International freight isn't for everyone.

Yes, MA is still CP.

 

[jercdevil]

That schedule is the reason I won't be applying. How can you even contemplate having a family life? 16 days is waaaaay too long. Sure, I know that Atlas has longer trips - something like 21-25 days in a row. I note that UPS doesn't have super long trips like that but it can be impossible to get on with UPS - that's the catch.

You must like to commute.

 

[HA25]

Is the Chief Pilot still MA?

He is... He helped me get a bud of mine an interview last week.. he's still waiting to hear back.

 

[DA-20]

www.md11.org

 

[fogrunner]

Is it possible to make more than guarantee on the MD-11 at Gemini? When you go out, are your trips all international or do you go back and forth thru the US a few times? Thanks for any info

Yes. What I have told people for years is expect to make nothing more than the 65 hour guarantee then you will not be disappointed. If you make more than that is great.

The majority of the trips on the 11 are outside the contiguous 48. The a/c do flow through JFK. The Milan sector to and from New York runs about once a week. Sometimes the JFK a/c will go to IAH or ORD. I believe we will have an 11 doing MIA South America and Europe here shortly. There is also an a/c that comes out of AMS to JFK about once a week.

That schedule is the reason I won't be applying. How can you even contemplate having a family life?

It depends on the individual and your family circumstances. My family life is great. The family across the street from me sadly is going through a divorce. He was home every night. So to imply that you have no family life is a tad naive. There are far more factors that go into a successful family/marriage than being gone for 17 days. I use to work at a place where the schedule was 8 days on 7 days off. In 2005 at Gemini I had a week more at home than I did
on the 8 and 7. I have turned 14 days of vacation into 38 days in a row.
Granted 17 days is a long time to be gone and as others have said this type of work is not for everyone, it is a personal choice.
Something else to consider is Gemini and other ACMIs are excellent places to gain "heavy international" experience especially in light of the new UPS requirements.

Do they prefer a paper resume or an emailed one?

I would email, fax and conventional mail. Update is the key. We are going to need an additional 60-70 bodies to crew the 11 on the current contracts. Expect to see classes until the end of the year.

Also, is there that many guys leaving that they need to hire that much?

Two fold. We have had quite a few jr MD11 f/os leave for UPS ( I wish them well). The MD11 contracts are very crew intensive. I airlined 50+ hours last rotation. I know of one guy who has over 60 hours of comercial for his rotation.


Hey Capt Fedora. I am just waiting for MAA to pop up in my travel. Aug, Sept, Dec, Jan, Feb, March and April so far.

 

[Fedora]

Kumar just called with my travel. Commercial to BOM on first leg this time, flying with two DC-10 transition FO's from the class behind us.
Who does Emerates code share with?
Waldo

 

[flyinloki]

I'm just curious but I did hear a story from a buddy of mine who ran into a former gemini captain. Not sure how long ago it was or anything but it was about gemini dispatch forgetting to file overflight permits with some nation in africa, it may have been nigeria or kenya. And on the third time when they landed in that country the entire crew was arrested and thrown under house arrest in a hotel for 4 days. After 4 days the crew had still not heard from gemini or had not been allowed to contact dispatch or something to that effect. So after the fourth day they were actually thrown into a kenyan jail or whatever which was filled with urine, crap, rats and nastified food for a day or two. Supposedly the F.O. got sick but they were finally realeased and allowed to return to the u.s. Is there any truth to this story that the company didn't even react until they got thrown into the jail. Just wondering about the validity of the story. I've been wondering since I heard about it.

 

[fogrunner]

Kumar just called with my travel. Commercial to BOM on first leg this time, flying with two DC-10 transition FO's from the class behind us.
Who does Emerates code share with?
Waldo

Isn't great to have an Indian Visa. Emirates, you can use your UAL FF card.

Let me guess, you will be flying with AM and RB...

 

[fogrunner]

I'm just curious but I did hear a story from a buddy of mine who ran into a former gemini captain. Not sure how long ago it was or anything but it was about gemini dispatch forgetting to file overflight permits with some nation in africa, it may have been nigeria or kenya. And on the third time when they landed in that country the entire crew was arrested and thrown under house arrest in a hotel for 4 days. After 4 days the crew had still not heard from gemini or had not been allowed to contact dispatch or something to that effect. So after the fourth day they were actually thrown into a kenyan jail or whatever which was filled with urine, crap, rats and nastified food for a day or two. Supposedly the F.O. got sick but they were finally realeased and allowed to return to the u.s. Is there any truth to this story that the company didn't even react until they got thrown into the jail. Just wondering about the validity of the story. I've been wondering since I heard about it.

Wow that is a lot better than the real story. I have talked to the Captain and one of the f/os (there were two) and the loadmaster.
I am not going into specifics, however they were afforded local lawyers provided by the compay and also sort advice from the US Embassy. The Captain was in contact with the company during the majority of the ordeal. A dispatcher did lose his job over it, more of a scapegoat. The dispatch team is overworked and undermanned.

 

[jercdevil]

When they were released from jail, the company made them go right to the airport and fly the jet back to the EU. I guess they consider being in jail for 18 hours part of your crew rest

 

[Fedora]

Well, it must have been as restful as the hotel in Vatry!

 

[fogrunner]

Well, it must have been as restful as the hotel in Vatry!

Oh my that is funny!!

 

[metrodriver]

quote: Well, it must have been as restful as the hotel in Vatry!

how funny! just stayed in Iquique (Chili) in a hotel that was about the same. Small beds, no a/c, street noise but to top it off (and Vatry didn't have this): an open-air easter mass in the evening using big speakers and next morning a military parade with marching band for some kind of ceremony with even bigger speakers right in front of the hotel door. We couldn't even leave the hotel because the street was barricaded. Of course our rooms were right above this ordeal. Sadly, breakfast sucked compared to Vatry: little food and INSTANT coffee! Never seen a hotel without a coffee maker before .......We left immediately after te parade was over for a real hotel

 

[Fedora]

Stayed in IQQ last year. NICE hotel, bar by the pool overlooking the ocean. 5 minute cab ride to the casino and restaurants. Saw the guys from Centurian there, including one of our old FE's. It must have been the holiday that messed up booking.

 

[SierraPapa356]

Correct about the Disaptch side of the story,

Wow that is a lot better than the real story. I have talked to the Captain and one of the f/os (there were two) and the loadmaster.
I am not going into specifics, however they were afforded local lawyers provided by the compay and also sort advice from the US Embassy. The Captain was in contact with the company during the majority of the ordeal. A dispatcher did lose his job over it, more of a scapegoat. The dispatch team is overworked and undermanned.

And later this week they will be one more short!